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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by arw0n »

Ono-Sendai wrote: post #310
mastermage wrote: post #260

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The more interesting question I have is if such Prompt Injection Attacks can ever be actualy avoided, with how GenAI works.

They could be if models were trained properly, with more carefully delineated prompts.

I'd be super interested in more information on this! Do you mean abandoning unsupervised learning completely?

Prompt Injection seems to me to be a fundamental problem in the sense that data and instructions are in the same stream and there's no clear/simple way to differentiate between the two at runtime.

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Post by paunchy »

hjoutfbkfd wrote: post #225
vovavili wrote: post #156

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Mac Minis are perfect for locally running demanding models because they can effectively use ordinary RAM as VRAM.

but people dont use OpenClaw with local models

They definitely do. A common configuration is running a supervisor model in the cloud and a much smaller model locally to churn on long running tasks. This frees Openclaw up to lavishly iterate on tool building without running through too many tokens.

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Post by ineedasername »

blks wrote: post #277
puppymaster wrote: post #243

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Regardless of how Apple will solve this, please just solve it. Siri is borderline useless these days. > Will it rain today? Please unlock your iphone for that > Any new messages from Chris? You will need to unlock your iphone for that > Please play youtube music Playing youtube music... please open youtube music app to do that All settings and permission granted. Utterly painful.

Do you want people being able to command your phone without unblocking? Maybe what you want is to disable phone blocking all together

I want a voice control experience that is functional. I don't want every bad thing that could happen-- especially those that will only happen if I'm careless to begin with-- circumscribing an ever shrinking range, often justified by contrived examples and/or for things much more easily accomplished through other methods.

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Post by Tagbert »

Espressosaurus wrote: post #235
msy wrote: post #113

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Not just lack of ambition, lack of vision or taste. Liquid Glass is a step back in almost every way, that it got out the door is an indictment of the entire leadership chain.

Not if the idea is to tank old phone performance to sell new phone hardware!

That’s never a good, long term business model and people are willing to pay more for Apple hardware because it tends to last longer than others. We’ve heard this cynical take for years, but I don’t think that it is really convincing.

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Post by Tagbert »

gyomu wrote: post #350
cromka wrote: post #108

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File taxes? That's a tall order, especially juxtaposed with managing calendar or responding to emails.

Tax filing is trivial in most countries with a functioning government, it’s only a Big Deal in the US due to Intuit bribing the government.

Even in the US, for most people tax filing it not really a complex process. It only gets complicated if you are trying to itemize deductions and have a complex income story. Most people can do it with a couple of documents and a single form.

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Post by garciasn »

paunchy wrote: post #362
hjoutfbkfd wrote: post #225

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but people dont use OpenClaw with local models

They definitely do. A common configuration is running a supervisor model in the cloud and a much smaller model locally to churn on long running tasks. This frees Openclaw up to lavishly iterate on tool building without running through too many tokens.

Unless you're running a large local model in 192GB+ this just won't be ideal, based on real-world experience.

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Post by marstall »

joeyguerra wrote: post #199

Just to add more credence to this thesis. Here’s the knowledge navigator. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umJsITGzXd0 It’s a 1987 ad like video showing a professor interacting with what looks like the Dynabook as an essentially AI personal assistant. Apple had this vision a long time ago. I guess they just lost the path somewhere along the way.

holy crap, that's amazing. i struggle to get my head around the agent hype - but i guess this video helps a little. I have Agent FOMO, I guess.

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Post by SCdF »

ksynwa wrote: post #274
csomar wrote: post #185

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Just like crypto this will also pass.

Crypto hasn't really passed. It's just not talked about on HN anymore. It is still a massive industry but they have dropped the rhetoric of democratising banking and instead let you use cryptocurrency to do things like betting on US invading Venezuela and so on.

Blockchain as a vehicle for immutable data has passed. Crypto has given up pretending it's anything other than a financial vehicle for gambling.

Also, the recruitment attempts I've gotten from crypto have completely disappeared compared to the peak (it's all AI startups now).

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

blks wrote: post #277
puppymaster wrote: post #243

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Regardless of how Apple will solve this, please just solve it. Siri is borderline useless these days. > Will it rain today? Please unlock your iphone for that > Any new messages from Chris? You will need to unlock your iphone for that > Please play youtube music Playing youtube music... please open youtube music app to do that All settings and permission granted. Utterly painful.

Do you want people being able to command your phone without unblocking? Maybe what you want is to disable phone blocking all together

Probably need VoiceID so only authorized people can talk to it.

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Post by PurpleRamen »

orthoxerox wrote: post #357
PurpleRamen wrote: post #348

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For which you have to file them first, for which you need to know the specific rules applying, for which people are using an expert, or AI.

No, the other party should file them. Charities can file the lists of donors etc.

What other party? They often don't even know you or if you can use something for tax or not. Pretty much everything can be used for tax deduction, it all just depends on circumstances. I know, many countries have a really broken privacy-situation, but I don't think it would be realistic that every shop is preventive filing every receipt and forces every customer to give them their tax-number so they can link them..
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