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Re: Prism

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Post by yfontana »

DominikPeters wrote: post #13

This seems like a very basic overleaf alternative with few of its features, plus a shallow ChatGPT wrapper. Certainly can’t compete with using VS Code or TeXstudio locally, collaborating through GitHub, and getting AI assistance from Claude Code or Codex.

> Certainly can’t compete with using VS Code or TeXstudio locally, collaborating through GitHub, and getting AI assistance from Claude Code or Codex.

I have a phd in economics. Most researchers in that field have never even heard of any of those tools. Maybe LaTeX, but few actually use it. I was one of very few people in my department using Zotero to manage my bibliography, most did that manually.

Re: Prism

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Post by vaylian »

pageandrew wrote: post #342
Perseids wrote: post #341

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

These things don't really seem related at all. Its a pretty generic term.

And yet, the name immediately reminded me of the Snowden relevations.

Re: Prism

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Post by Phelinofist »

pageandrew wrote: post #342
Perseids wrote: post #341

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

These things don't really seem related at all. Its a pretty generic term.

FWIW, my immediate reaction was the same "That reminds me of NSA PRISM"

Re: Prism

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Post by fxwin »

alphazard wrote: post #212
plastic041 wrote: post #207

The video shows a user asking Prism to find articles to cite and to put them in a bib file. But what's the point of citing papers that aren't referenced in the paper you're actually writing? Can you do that? Edit: You can add papers that are not cited, to bibliography. Video is about bibliography and I was thinking about cited works.

I once took a philosophy class where an essay assignment had a minimum citation count. Obviously ridiculous, since a philosophical argument should follow a chain of reasoning starting at stated axioms. Citing a paper to defend your position is just an appeal to authority (a fallacy that they teach you about in the same class). The citation requirement allowed the class to fulfill a curricular requirement that student…

> Citing a paper to defend your position is just an appeal to authority (a fallacy that they teach you about in the same class).

an appeal to authority is fallacious when the authority is unqualified for the subject at hand. Citing a paper from a philosopher to support a point isn't fallacious, but " because my biology professor said so" is.

Re: Prism

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Post by rspijker »

trees101 wrote: post #236
cryzinger wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More relevant than ever: > The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

The P≠NP conjecture in CS says checking a solution is easier than finding one. Verifying a Sudoku is fast; solving it from scratch is hard. But Brandolini's Law says the opposite: refuting bullshit costs way more than producing it. Not actually contradictory. Verification is cheap when there's a spec to check against. 'Valid Sudoku?' is mechanical. But 'good paper?' has no spec. That's judgment, not verification.

It's not contradictory because solving and producing bullshit are very different things. Generating less than 81 random numbers between 1 and 9 is probably also cheaper than verifying correctness of a sudoku.

Re: Prism

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Post by beklein »

swyx wrote: post #214
beklein wrote: post #122

The Latent Space podcast just released a relevant episode today where they interviewed Kevin Weil and Victor Powell from, now, OpenAI, with some demos, background and context, and a Q&A. The YouTube link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cBTVr8nxU

oh i was here to post it haha - thank you for doing that job for me so I'm not a total shill. I really enjoyed meeting them and was impressed by the sheer ambition of the AI for Science effort at OAI - in some sense I'm making a 10000x smaller scale bet than OAI on AI for Science "taking off" this year with the upcoming dedicated Latent Space Science pod. generally think that there's a lot of fertile ground for smart…

Wasn't aware you're so active on HN; sorry for stealing your karma.

Love the idea of a dedicated series/pod where normal people take on hard problems by using and leveraging the emergent capabilities of frontier AI systems.

Anyway, thanks for pod!

Re: Prism

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

Perseids wrote: post #341

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

> Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust?

We haven’t forgotten… it’s mostly that we’re all jaded given the fact that there has been zero ramifications and so what’s the use of complaining - you’re better off pushing shit up a hill

Re: Prism

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Post by TiredOfLife »

sunaookami wrote: post #358
Perseids wrote: post #341

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

>Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? Have you ever seen the comment section of a Snowden thread here? A lot of users here call for Snowden to be jailed, call him a russian asset, play down the reports etc. These are either NSA sock puppet accounts or they won't bite the hand that feeds them (employees of companies willing to breach their users trust). Edit…

Him being (or best case becoming) a russian asset turned out to be true

Re: Prism

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Post by syntex »

Springtime wrote: post #296
syntex wrote: post #191

The Post-LLM World: Fighting Digital Garbage https://archive.org/details/paper_20260127/mode/2up Mini paper: that future isn’t the AI replacing humans. its about humans drowning in cheap artifacts. New unit of measurement proposed: verification debt. Also introduces: Recursive Garbage → model collapse a little joke on Prism)

> The Post-LLM World: Fighting Digital Garbage https://archive.org/details/paper_20260127/mode/2up This appears to just be the output of LLMs itself? It credits GPT-5.2 and Gemini 3 exclusively as authors, has a public domain license (appropriate for AI output) and is only several paragraphs in length.

Yes, I did it as a joke inspired by the PRISM release. But unexpectedly, it makes a good point. And the funny part for was that the paper lists only LLMs as authors.

Also, in a world where AI output is abundant, we humans become the scarce resource the "tools" in the system that provide some connectivity to reality (grounding) for LLM

Re: Prism

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Post by mkl »

> Turn whiteboard equations or diagrams directly into LaTeX, saving hours of time manipulating graphics pixel-by-pixel

What a bizarre thing to say! I'm guessing it's slop. Makes it hard to trust anything the article claims.

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