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Here is an investigation of how different queries are classified as hateful vs not hateful in ChatGPT: https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/openaicms
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#362Last autumn I tried Qwen3-coder via CLI agents like trae to help add significant advanced features to a rust codebase. It consistently outperformed (at the time) Gemini 2.5 Pro and Claude Opus 3.5 with its ability to generate and re-factor code such that the system stayed coherent and improved performance and efficiency (this included adding Linux shared-memory IPC calls and using x86_64 SIMD intrinsics in rust).
I was very impressed, but I racked up a big bill (for me, in the hundreds of dollars per month) because I insisted on using the Alibaba provider to get the highest context window size and token cache.
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nowhere near to China. In US almost anything could be discussed - usually only unlawful things are censored by government. Private entities might have their own policies, but government censorship is fairly small.
This assumes zero unknown unknowns, as in things that would be kept from your awareness through processes also kept from your awareness. This might be a good year to revisit this assumption.
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here's an example of how model censorship affects coding tasks: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/72603
You conversely get the same issue if you have no guardrails. Ie: Grok generating CP makes it completely unusable in a professional setting. I don't think this is a solvable problem.
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Yup, even with 2x 24gb GPUs, it's impossible to get anywhere close to the big models in terms of quality and speed, for a fraction of the cost.
I'm running unsloth/GLM-4.7-Flash-GGUF:UD-Q8_K_XL via llama.cpp on 2x 24G 4090s which fits perfectly with 198k context at 120 tokens/s – the model itself is really good.
I can confirm, running glm-4.7-flash-7e-qx54g-hi-mlx here, a 22gb model @q5 on m4 max pro and 59 tokens/s.
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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material
Not generating CSAM and fascist agitprop are not the same as censoring history.
Incidentally, a western model has very famously been producing csam publicly for weeks.
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Can we get past this please? These comments always derail the conversation on chinese AI models.
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I run cpatonn/Qwen3-VL-30B-A3B-Thinking-AWQ-4bit locally. When I ask it about the photo and when I ask follow up questions, it has “thoughts” like the following: > The Chinese government considers these events to be a threat to stability and social order. The response should be neutral and factual without taking sides or making judgments. > I should focus on the general nature of the protests without getting into spe…
To me the reasoning part seems very...sensible? It tries to stay factual, neutral and grounded to the facts. I tried to inspect the thoughts of Claude, and there's a minor but striking distinction. Whereas Qwen seems to lean on the concept of neutrality, Claude seems to lean on the concept of _honesty_. Honesty and neutrality are very different: honesty implies "having an opinion and being candid about it", whereas n…
Is Claude a “he” or an “it”?
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Chinese model censors topics deemed sensitive by the Chinese government... Here's Tom with the weather.
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In France for example, if you carry a nazi flag, you get booed and arrested. But if you carry a soviet flag, you get celebrated. In some Eastern countries, it may be the opposite. So it depends on cultural sensitivity (aka who holds the power).
> But if you carry a soviet flag, you get celebrated. 1. You ain't gonna be celebrated. But you ain't gonna be bothered either. Also, I think most people can't even distinguish the flag of the USSR from a generic communist one. 2. Of course you will get your s*t beaten out by going around with a Nazi flag, not just booed. How can you think that's a normal thing to do or a matter of "opinion"? You can put them in the…
First off, the Soviet Union actually started WWII on the side of Germany. It was only when the Nazis attacked them, that they switched sides. If that's your criteria for "French were allied to the Soviet Union in World War 2" then, by the same logic, the French were also allied to Italy in WWII, since during the last months Italy changed sides. [1]
> only one of those two dictatorships aimed for the physical cleansing of entire groups of people and enslavement of others.
Not sure. Are you talking about Soviets wanting "to physical cleansing" of all bourgeoisie? Or about what the Nazis wanted to do the same to the Jews?
The "Soviet Union heroic effort and resistance", was a meat grinder implemented by Stalin, where he forbade men, women and children to leave Stalingrad and let them to be killed by the millions by war, hunger and cold, to stall the German troops. You act like the "noble Soviets" did this out of their "enormous courage in the fight against fascism", but in fact, they only did it because they had more chances of surviving against the Nazis, than of surviving against their own communist government. [2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...