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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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I guess your position is that Russia is not at "full scale war" with Ukraine then. Currently that entails "large drone attacks" that kill two and injure dozens. That's a little short of the full scale war Russia could wield in WWI and WWII.

You might want to check some reliable sources about how the war is going for Ukraine, because it seems like you think they are kicking some Russian bootie, which is simply not the case. Take the US (and risk of mutual worldwide nuclear contamination) out of the equation and Ukraine would be in even worse shape.

> because it seems like you think they are kicking some Russian bootie,

This seems like quite the assumption.

It is generally a mistake to attempt telepathy/IP.

Russia not doing nearly as well as one might expect for an aging out core of a former superpower is not an equivilance with their target is kicking their arse.

The grind Russia is having to go through against Ukraine is an indicator of how it might fare against a full NATO (sans the US).

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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You can find active discussions here: https://news.ycombinator.com/active (Including ones one flagged submissions)

Okay, but why isn't it visible in /news This post is ranked 7th in /active, now. Quickly cross-checking /active and /news, I've found no other post in /active not visible in /news. It went from 100 to 200 points, since I noticed the delisting. /active is an obscure list, I doubt, that's how many people find this post. Whatever HN is doing, it seems to be completely intransparent and selective. Some A/B-ing, or geofen…

HN moderation routinely demotes politically charged threads so that they don’t show at the top of the default front page all the time.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Even being the slimeballs they are, they all each knew how bad Trump was for their party and for our country. Yet one by one they kissed the ring and now we're expected to lick the boot.

Yet the American people seemed to back Trump. Whenever someone stood up against him like say Rubio the polls would go like 80% Trump 20% Rubio. That's a bit I find puzzling as a non American. Why not choose someone basically decent like Rubio, rather than the Donald?

If you'd like to understand, there are two things here.

The first is the primary system. Most people inclined to see Trump as extra-bad were prohibited from voting in the Republican primaries, as they were voting in the Democratic primaries (or even worse, because they weren't registered Republicans in states without "open primaries").

The second is that everyone was basically bored and upset with mainstream status-quo politicians. The Republican party specifically had been growing and grooming the monster that would become Trumpism for decades on reactionary talk radio. They'd get people all riled up about immigration, globalism, racial tension, sellout politicians, etc. But then they'd cool them down enough to show up and vote for more status quo Republicans on a vague remnant feeling of Republicans being "better". If you want some discrete datapoints to see the progression of this monster manifesting in popular politics: Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul [0], the Tea Party.

Trump, the New York con artist Democrat, basically just channeled and took personal ownership of all of that reactionary tripe - "saying the quiet part out loud". So how could Rubio defend against that? Rubio was likely often a target of that reactionary talk radio for failing to take some hardline stance, in favor of the pragmatic American status quo.

And so here we are, an entire tribe of the country with no idea how the country actually functioned or what made us a world leader, frustrated and now overrunning the place as an angry mob hell bent on destroying anything they don't understand, which is everything.

[0] I myself was a Ron Paul supporter, but I have to be honest and admit that the energy behind him - rather than staying true to "right-Libertarianism" fundamentalism - transformed into the simplistic populist answers of the Tea Party.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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The downstream effects for America of this can be so insane that this might be the reason that the bubble might pop in the first place when reality sets in. Somebody should do a cost analysis of this and how it would impact S&P and the downstream effects of that as well and so on.

Let’s see Europe survive without American tech

You are severely underestimating India within this context. In fact one of the benefits of Silicon Valley for America was that Indians used to believe in an American Dream and the SV Venture capitals could provide a better salary for developers.

But this is because of American dollar (formerly) being the de-facto currency which made the currency strong in value & this made investments especially within S&P and VC money(as more & more VC funded companies ended up on shelfs on S&P and nasdaq)

So the amount of money flowing in America was like a river and we went there and helped because I do feel like most Indian coders are more liberal (yes even if there have been times of racism)

But after ICE attacks & H1B hikes to a million $ and children of people not recieving citizenship, Indian Coders will prefer to stay in India and focus more on the startup culture within India (banagalore, gurgaon,ahmedabad etc.)

Indian Coding tests for colleges are hard and the premise of American dream was that Kids wouldn't have to study within the hyper competitive environment as well but at this point, we don't know if the kids would be able to stay safe in the first context as well. (I saw videos of ICE online where they targeted brown/black kids like wtf??)

I will be the first to admit that India's research programs are ass so much of our researchers in context of AI are in America or Europe but the ties between Europe are gonna get stronger & we might get ourselves better research programs in near future.

On the other hand China's research programs are excellent so they are able to dominate AI space in this context.

But rest assured, I do feel like India can dominate/play catch up.

India EU deal is also being signed (in the process) & India recently slashed any tax on angel investing and Indian startups are tax free for 2-3 years and India is opening up cities specifically for technology hubs. India also doesn't tax foreign income & India's startup culture is robust.

So what was the issue? Lack of funding. For an idea which could garner 1 million $ in America, we might only be able to get 100_000$ but as more and more countries and institutional investments move further from America (See you are thinking only Europe will move but the world is seeing not just Europe seeing America make aggressions towards another sovereign country)

I do like to dunk on my indian govt. but I do feel like they are very much understandable within this context and chill.

Now some people might think we might still use AWS,GCP etc. but rest be assured any new startups will probably evaluate Hetzner,OVH,scaleway (which in many cases are cheaper than these cloud providers as well in the first place) plus it gives easier EU connection in the future with laws like GDPR.

I predict India Estonia relations are gonna rise and we are gonna see a witness in EU companies built in Estonia (which supports e-residents and company formation without travelling/living there for around 200-300$) in the near future as well.

India has UPI which I will have to admit is such a beauty to use & transact and even street vendors got UPI which could've been unthinkable a decade ago. My brother was actually on a team in his college to try to create diplomatic relations between India and London to create UPI test pilots there and I do feel like UPI and SEPA integration could deeply financially involve the two alliances together.

Best of all is that India's much more neutral and non alignment policy than America & We have a policy (both at a national/state to even a more household idea) of peace and welcoming neighbours.

Did you know that USSR and China had bicker (two countries which were aligned together) and USA then decided to connect with China (effecitvely establishing free trade zones setting up factories) which has now made China grow into (I must admit even though its scary for the borders, a key global play)

You would be surprised by how quickly America and China integrated.

Now US and EU have a falling out and you see Indian tech with all factors just saying hello and winking at EU which has good capital funding. The subtext is probably clear but the fact of the matter is that India has some great potential (largest population which is unemployed, if you spin up enough colleges with good degrees and teach effectively and filter out the people interested in tech than those who aren't) Our tests aren't built in such a way tho but I do hope that India pivots in this context but overall, Its still pretty optimistic and India has been one of the fastest growing countries.

I don't think Europe will just survive without American tech, it might actually thrive given that I think Indian tech companies will focus on the home brand in home and with PPP, we will probably pricen things out less (comparatively to America) even for the American customers.

It's just not even about India. Of course I am biased here but I can try to provide as much facts on the details if you want because I have detailed extensively about this as its literally the intersection of every interest I have (geopolitics & tech)

Funny thing is that AI might actually help Indians more than people think too. We are more likely to be able to just record our speech in whatever we want and there are tools which are literally live which can understand context and just modify the accent to be better understood if accent struggles + we might see closed captions and other contexts as well & my brother works in Coding industry and AI agents are used extensively & America went from giving 100_000$ salaries to 200$ coding models (talking about the best of best CC here for dev context, we are also gonna witness China catch up in here and provide things for cheaper but great quality too, For context GLM's z ai is head to head with claude in many things and costs 10x less)

Once again I have my bias and feel free to discredit it if it inconveniences ya.

But atleast the philosophy I am moving with (and I hope india does too) is to keep a sharp focus on being the best & price effective too & get external funding within the country. We are non aligned and we don't want to fall into many controversies that much & we are just doing our own thing and I must admit, we are getting pretty good at it.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #362

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Okay, but why isn't it visible in /news This post is ranked 7th in /active, now. Quickly cross-checking /active and /news, I've found no other post in /active not visible in /news. It went from 100 to 200 points, since I noticed the delisting. /active is an obscure list, I doubt, that's how many people find this post. Whatever HN is doing, it seems to be completely intransparent and selective. Some A/B-ing, or geofen…

HN moderation routinely demotes politically charged threads so that they don’t show at the top of the default front page all the time.

It's not demoted, for all I can tell, it's gone. In any case, pretty shady to do this covertly.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #362

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HN moderation routinely demotes politically charged threads so that they don’t show at the top of the default front page all the time.

It's not demoted, for all I can tell, it's gone. In any case, pretty shady to do this covertly.

If it’s “gone” then it’s because too many users flagged it. You can turn on “showdead” in your profile to see them again. It isn’t done covertly. You can email hn@ycombinator.com about specific posts to get an explanation.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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I liked this bit by Doctorow recently https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/ If you're getting tariffs anyway, why not just take the yoke of American business protection laws off your shoulders? Let French engineers sell jailbreaking hardware for iphones, or Romanian developers sell unlock keys for John Deere tractors.

reverse engineering -everything-technological- was a national/state-funded (amateur and also professional) sport not so long ago, in quite a few countries around..

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #366

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It's not demoted, for all I can tell, it's gone. In any case, pretty shady to do this covertly.

If it’s “gone” then it’s because too many users flagged it. You can turn on “showdead” in your profile to see them again. It isn’t done covertly. You can email hn@ycombinator.com about specific posts to get an explanation.

Have that option set. It's not marked flagged, or dead.

See, the weird thing is how quite many people found their way here after it got delisted.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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If it’s “gone” then it’s because too many users flagged it. You can turn on “showdead” in your profile to see them again. It isn’t done covertly. You can email hn@ycombinator.com about specific posts to get an explanation.

Have that option set. It's not marked flagged, or dead. See, the weird thing is how quite many people found their way here after it got delisted.

So it’s not actually gone? Again, instead of speculating, send an email if something is unclear. Yes, moderation is purposefully selective, but not based on political agenda. Dang has repeatedly explained moderation policy in the past.

This blog post has some information: https://drewdevault.com/2017/09/13/Analyzing-HN.html

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #324

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I guess your position is that Russia is not at "full scale war" with Ukraine then. Currently that entails "large drone attacks" that kill two and injure dozens. That's a little short of the full scale war Russia could wield in WWI and WWII.

You might want to check some reliable sources about how the war is going for Ukraine, because it seems like you think they are kicking some Russian bootie, which is simply not the case. Take the US (and risk of mutual worldwide nuclear contamination) out of the equation and Ukraine would be in even worse shape.

For a supposed superpower they are doing very badly
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