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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by btown »

jmsgwd wrote: post #270
btown wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who's loved Logic Pro since the days before Apple bought Emagic, this is amazing that it will be accessible to a broader audience. There are many discussions e.g. https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1433515-why-does... about the reasons for its popularity, but one stands out to me - its event data model. There are far too many tools out there (from FL Studio on one end, to MuseScore on the other) t…

How else could you represent piano roll data than as a stream of events? I thought that was ubiquitous since the invention of MIDI. Are you saying other sequencers are unable to render the same data as piano roll and score?

Among professional-ready DAWs, as far as I know, it's unique in its approach. Pro Tools and FL Studio still don't have score rendering or even MusicXML export! Reaper has limited score rendering/engraving support, but minimal customizability.

And on the notation-oriented side, you have things like MuseScore, Finale, etc. where there is an event model, but the UI itself doesn't have mature (or any) support for tracking mixer/knob automation (outside of what can be derived automatically from dynamic symbols).

Years ago, I used Logic in a musical theater context where I could build a constantly-updated demo for pitching/rehearsals/live-iteration and edit the final orchestration to be printed for the pit orchestra, both from the same living document. Could I have duplicated my changes in a DAW and notation software separately, and kept them in sync manually? Absolutely, and many creators do. But there's something special about having that holy grail at your fingertips.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by tshaddox »

embedding-shape wrote: post #64
jasoneckert wrote: post #51

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The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

It's pretty clever that they keep the "pay one time" option still alive while announcing the availability of subscription, so anyone who says "Boo, not you too Apple" can easily be shut down with "You still have the option to buy it!" instead of leaving those critics without answers. Of course, they'll eventually remove the option to buy the software by paying once, I think everyone can see the writing on the wall, b…

Yes, shame on them for only making good decisions now, instead of in the future.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by concinds »

ksec wrote: post #137

This is Off Topic, but the first thing I notice on that page were those icons for apps with Apple Creator Studio. They look AWEFUL .

It's a massacre. The originals[0] were metaphorical and easy to grasp. These new ones are meaningless, for most of them you can't guess what the app does from the icon. The beautiful 3-axis colorwheel gimbal, gone. The concert access badge, gone. The pressed record award replaced with a disc? Is that the MP3 player app?

And Final Cut Pro looks like Windows 11's garbage free ClipChamp! None of them have the gravitas of the old ones.

It's weird because uniformity and minimalism haven't been "in" in years, outside the Silicon Valley bubble. They're very culturally out of touch.

[0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1qbz6g8/whos_excited...

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by pier25 »

mh2266 wrote: post #288
pier25 wrote: post #143

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They don't have much of a choice. They bet the house on liquid glass and need to keep up appearances.

> They bet the house on liquid glass How? If they reverted to the previous iOS and macOS designs, Apple would go out of business?

God only knows how much money they invested into the new GUI engine for all their platforms. It was a super expensive bet.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by sleepybrett »

jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

Meanwhile the subscription for Adobe Premiere ALONE is 22.99/mo

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by sleepybrett »

kergonath wrote: post #306
dylan604 wrote: post #222

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They'd be even happier if you bought one of the Mac Studios or Mac Pro. Please, someone, anyone.

I don’t think they have any trouble selling Studios. Pros, on the other hand…

Yeah studios are pretty boss machines, I know at least two companies that offer studios instead of macbooks to WFH employees if they want.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by m463 »

movedx wrote: post #352
jwr wrote: post #276

After Apple suddenly discontinued Aperture, which left users like me with huge complex photo archives hanging, I will never trust any professional software tool from Apple again. It is a disaster that I still haven't fully recovered from. I've learned my lesson — all my archives will now be maintained by me, in file structures, with metadata in text files.

Please don’t take this as me saying you were wrong to ever trust Apple, however the best way to organise any data is usually just files on a disk. That’s becoming a recurring theme for me and even some of my corporate clients now. Confluence, for example, is out the window for secure documentation around sensitive environments and Word Docs in One Drive are back in. It’s surprisingly refreshing and gets the job done…

From what I recall, aperture did use files-on-a-disk, maintaining original photos read-only and letting everything else be operations on those originals.

(am I recalling correctly?)

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by sleepybrett »

crazygringo wrote: post #81
Towaway69 wrote: post #68

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Undercut the competition until there is no competition, then raise prices or have I missed something? Ah, yes - cross finance your loses by selling compute in your own data centres / hosting service because you can.

Somehow I don't think Apple is going to put Adobe out of business.

They don't need to, but they do lose a bunch more of the 'feeder' market. If need to edit video to a semi professional standard I'd pick this bundle at 12.99/month (and get extra tools i might need) vs adobe premiere for 22.99/month.

As someone who came up along side adobe, the only reason photoshop is as entrenched as it is is simply because of piracy. Ditto for premiere. It created the market that they then locked down with subscriptions.

I think you are going to see shops that are smaller, doing their own design stuff internally, increasingly moving away from adobe subscriptions.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by schappim »

jasoneckert wrote: post #51
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

This isn’t the whole story as one-time purchases will no longer have access to all new features without a subscription [1].

1. https://www.macrumors.com/2026/01/13/apple-creator-studio-ex...

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