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Why don't banks just make desktop computer applications?
PC platforms don't have remote attestation infrastructure working.
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The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
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Re: The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
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It’s not an evil at all. For 99% of people who aren’t “computer people”, when we gave them that, we got the Bonzai Buddy and 47 other malware toolbars installed. Did we forget 2003 already? App sandboxing and system file integrity is one of the most beneficial security features of modern computing, and the vast majority of people have no desire to turn it off. You can buy rootable phones. People overwhelmingly choose…
The problem is mostly that normal people can't be trusted with system-level access but some people can. And it's literally, provably not possible to tell them apart. For the masses, lack of system-level access is a benefit because they won't be able to ruin their device. For hackers and hobbyists, lack of system-level access is a hindrance because they won't be able to control their device.
> normal people can't be trusted with system-level access but some people can.
Why can "normal people" be trusted with a car then? Or firearms? Or kitchen knives?
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There are enough non-shitty banks and credit unions, at least in the US, that you should be able to easily switch banks to a better one. They have no moat.
The most is ATM access if you want that.
Most credit unions use "shared branching" which mostly solves ATM access.
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I've turned off find my device on my device. Although, I am still using 17.7.2 that won't stop nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.2. I don't want to because I know I'll hate it.
you can kill the ota nagging very easily without any side effects, try searching for tvos profile
Wasn't aware of this, thanks!
Also found out that the profiles also expire, so you need to update those in order to skip the update nagging. Apple's lolling all the way.
Re: The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
#365The biggest "evil" that has been committed (and is still being committed) against computing has been normalizing this idea of not having root access to a device you supposedly own. That having root access to your computer, and therefore being the ultimate authority over what gets run on it, is bad or risky or dangerous. That "sideloading" is weird and needs a separate name, and is not the normal case of simply loadin…
I think, practically, everyone will need at least a cheap-ish android or iphone, perhaps $300 (and a new one every few years ...), to be their locked-down "agent" for using financial or government services. It's not for you, it's for the government/banks, it is their agent for talking to you.
Kinda weird, if you think about it. But that seems to be the way it's heading.
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Or you could just turn on Do Not Disturb…
More painful to manage turning it on/off than to simply leave it in my car. Over the years, I've spent far too much time with different solutions for managing notifications, etc. Turns out simply keeping the older phone after buying a newer one was the easiest approach. No downsides so far. The old phone has the SIM card. The new one doesn't.
Pulling down on control center and pressing “Do not disturb” is hard to manage?
Re: The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
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PC platforms don't have remote attestation infrastructure working.
And surprisingly I can pay securely using my PC, fully rooted, on FOSS software. Hardware tokens have been a thing for decades. There are more second (or third) factor authentication and signing solutions than I can enumerate. Do peope get defrauded using online banking? Sure. But usually not in a way that would be stopped by secure attestation.
Most banks don't know hardware tokens are a thing. They want everyone to use their app.
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As I mentioned in another post: By 2026, you'll need two phones. My current setup: 1) An unmodified iPhone SE (2022 model) with OS support until 2032. This runs all my authentication, banking, health, etc. It is in airplane mode 99% of the time unless I need it. 2) The second is a Pixel 9a with Graphene OS for daily use, routing and internet access. This is expensive, but I found it to be the only viable solution to…
Is camera quality the same on rooted and locked Pixel? For example rooted Sony phones have terrible photo / video quality.
Yes, you can use the "pixel camera" app on GrapheneOS
Re: The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
#369Of course if you have root, you can make other programs work as you please. They need to go further to outlaw hide root apps, and then install special app to track the status of the phone to make sure it is not rooted. Then allow police to randomly check the presence of this app on people phones. Every phone needs to be registered and pass hardware inspection every year. Even better, make so called offices where peop…
You jest but governments will not even think before doing stuff like this. The recent "Sanchar Sathi" fiasco by the Indian Government is an example.
Re: The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app
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As I mentioned in another post: By 2026, you'll need two phones. My current setup: 1) An unmodified iPhone SE (2022 model) with OS support until 2032. This runs all my authentication, banking, health, etc. It is in airplane mode 99% of the time unless I need it. 2) The second is a Pixel 9a with Graphene OS for daily use, routing and internet access. This is expensive, but I found it to be the only viable solution to…
With all due respect - I totally understand you may need a rooted phone, I’m just curious what you use it for? I’ve never had a modified or rooted phone so I don’t know of any of the reasons you might need one.
To stop third parties selling your location information.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/12/...