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My wife and I are definitely going to decide for my kids while they are under 18. Not you, not the state If there is a benefit for my gen and my parents, then why wouldn’t we consider it?
You don’t own your children.
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Are you a parent? We might just be raised differently. And I can accept that you might raise your kids differently.
A parent has a duty to do the best job of raising their child that they can. Trying to force abstinence does not work and leads to more problems down the road.
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Are you a parent? We might just be raised differently. And I can accept that you might raise your kids differently.
I am a parent who vaccinated my daughter at 9 for HPV, and my son will be vaccinated as soon as he’s old enough, without delay or hesitation. It is my opinion you are doing a disservice to your children with a suboptimal mental model, potentially driven by emotion instead of data. Your children will have sexual contact with another human eventually as they grow into adults, and there is very low risk with an HPV vacc…
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> Try to do better Pretty sure this line never convinced anyone of anything. We all want to do "better" but have different definitions of what that constitutes. > If you don’t think your kids are going to have sex when they’re older, or think you can control it, you are lying to yourself. I don't think anyone thinks this. Some people do hope and expect their children not to have sex outside of a monogamous marriage.…
"Sending a message" is generally a cover term for evil. And there is no issue of having faith in them--you are trying to make a decision you have no right to make. You're a parent, not a slavemaster. The real world data is that the "good" girls are more likely to get pregnant, more likely to get STDs. And more likely to end up in bad marriages. And lets add another data point. I used to have a bunch of coworkers from…
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I am a parent who vaccinated my daughter at 9 for HPV, and my son will be vaccinated as soon as he’s old enough, without delay or hesitation. It is my opinion you are doing a disservice to your children with a suboptimal mental model, potentially driven by emotion instead of data. Your children will have sexual contact with another human eventually as they grow into adults, and there is very low risk with an HPV vacc…
Let me start by saying I am mostly in agreement with what you've written. But I do not understand why there is the urgency to vaccinate them when they are 9 (as you did).
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I work in risk management, and have for almost a decade, so that’s how my brain is wired to evaluate and manage risk. I understand others may decision and action differently. Low cost, low risk, high reward choice? That’s a damn good deal, I’ll take that deal.
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> Well, hope and faith are not effective strategies. Good luck to those who operate from this perspective, they will face disappointment, which is theirs to own. Hm, worked great for many people I know. I can imagine it would depend on a number of factors. But looking at your links, they don't seem especially relevant to the question of whether more people are having sex before marriage than before. They don't even m…
"Faith" is fundamentally belief without knowledge. Thus you by definition have no reason to rely on it. (Although the word also gets used in situations where there is a track record to rely on but no specific evidence in the particular case.) And you're using the wrong yardstick. What you should be looking at is the number of adverse events. STDs. Unintended pregnancies.
I don't need to use the yardstick you propose. There are many confounders in aggregate data, and there are not public polls that capture the demographics and beliefs of my family. It would be a fool's errand to pretend that publicly available data is somehow more important than my own understanding of my kids.
It's funny how you think I shouldn't be able to make decisions for my children, but you seem to think that you know better than me what is right for them.
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"Sending a message" is generally a cover term for evil. And there is no issue of having faith in them--you are trying to make a decision you have no right to make. You're a parent, not a slavemaster. The real world data is that the "good" girls are more likely to get pregnant, more likely to get STDs. And more likely to end up in bad marriages. And lets add another data point. I used to have a bunch of coworkers from…
The decision to vaccinate absolutely belongs with the parent. The child does not know enough to make this decision when they are 9 years old.
~54% of Americans read below a sixth grade reading level, for example. We would trust your average American’s judgement on vaccination need or schedule, especially for their children, why?
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The decision to vaccinate absolutely belongs with the parent. The child does not know enough to make this decision when they are 9 years old.
Neither does a parent, based on all available evidence, and multiple jurisdictions make vaccination compulsory without exception. Parents aren’t special, and they are failing in this regard by believing they should have a right to say no, simply for being a parent. Anyone, broadly speaking, can have children. That does not make them good or qualified parents unfortunately. It just makes them temporary guardians (unti…
Can you share which jurisdictions mandate the HPV vaccine and have no exceptions? I am aware of only a few jurisdictions where it is required, and all such jurisdictions have exceptions.
They also only require it for kids in schools, so any kid who is homeschooled is not subject to the mandate in the first place.
More importantly, the vast, vast majority of jurisdictions have no mandate whatsoever, so any parent can also choose to move to one of those, in addition to the homeschool option.
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> no central medical records at all Which is bad, we definitely should have them. Referral data appears to be managed through Healthlink, which may just be a privatised not always used medical record system.
I'm a proponent of EHRs but not necessarily of centralised medical records, which have not been shown to improve outcomes and which do impose serious privacy risks on patients. HealthLink is a messaging system and stores no EHRs at all. eHealth is the National EHR programme aiming to roll out EHRs by 2030 nationwide. It will be a no-opt-out centralised EHR and combined social care record.
This is bad (from my perspective, as someone who's moved a lot and thus has medical records scattered all over).
> It will be a no-opt-out centralised EHR and combined social care record.
This is probably the right approach, even though I'm sceptical that it will be delivered effectively.
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Neither does a parent, based on all available evidence, and multiple jurisdictions make vaccination compulsory without exception. Parents aren’t special, and they are failing in this regard by believing they should have a right to say no, simply for being a parent. Anyone, broadly speaking, can have children. That does not make them good or qualified parents unfortunately. It just makes them temporary guardians (unti…
> based on all available evidence, and multiple jurisdictions make vaccination compulsory without exception Can you share which jurisdictions mandate the HPV vaccine and have no exceptions? I am aware of only a few jurisdictions where it is required, and all such jurisdictions have exceptions. They also only require it for kids in schools, so any kid who is homeschooled is not subject to the mandate in the first plac…