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Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by kombine »

scottoreily wrote: post #326
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #324

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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.

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Israeli society is no less radicalised, so this is irrelevant. What's relevant is that Israel illegally occupied Palestinian territories under international law and instituted a regime of apartheid on those territories.

Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by snickerbockers »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #335
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.

Technical solutions can lead to diplomatic solutions as it changes the power dynamics. Will it solve the "root cause"? Probably not, but that's because there's no single "root cause", but it still might lead to some diplomatic resolution.

This does not change any power dynamics. The only time the iron dome has ever come close to failing on a systematic level was when they ran out of interceptors during their own unprovoked war against iran.

Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by anovikov »

breppp wrote: post #254
steve-atx-7600 wrote: post #240

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Riots are going to end predictably badly when those participating do not have guns. Just like a couple years ago other there. Probably a lesson here.

It's usually progressive until the people with guns are too afraid to shoot, as in the fall of USSR Although I will believe there are a few more iterations before this regime falls

In the fall of USSR, no one was "afraid to shoot". No one was motivated to do so. Or do anything for the completely failed system that no longer worked for anyone, inside or outside it. By 1991, no one cared for good ol' Union. That's the only reason it died so peacefully in its sleep with virtually no violence - it was so rotten, no one could care for its survival.

Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by snickerbockers »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #356
netsharc wrote: post #348

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You'd be amazed at the amount of radicalization Israeli society gets if you'd bother to look with unbiased eyes. Attacking aid trucks? Spitting at Christians, even tourists? Stealing houses of West Bank people? (Oh must be for that Lebensraum) Maybe that's one goal you should add to your 2026 list...

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>Don't even start with what they did with the Indians.

At least we paid for our own damn genocide. It takes a ot of nerve to complain about americans having a "blind spot" on a country whose military receives at least 15% of its revenue from American taxpayers who are compelled against their will.

Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by mupuff1234 »

snickerbockers wrote: post #362
mupuff1234 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technical solutions can lead to diplomatic solutions as it changes the power dynamics. Will it solve the "root cause"? Probably not, but that's because there's no single "root cause", but it still might lead to some diplomatic resolution.

This does not change any power dynamics. The only time the iron dome has ever come close to failing on a systematic level was when they ran out of interceptors during their own unprovoked war against iran.

Imagine a scenario where israel doesn't need bomb shelters or sirens since rockets are destroyed almost instantly. Right now even if iron dome works it still greatly disrupts the day to day life in israel (not to mention the pure financial burden of interception)

Now I doubt the technology is anywhere close to that now, but in 10-20 years alongside other technological advancements? Who knows.

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Post by brigandish »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #357
scottoreily wrote: post #326

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> Palestinian society is deeply propagandized and radicalized What definition are you using that trips for Palestinians but not Israelis (or practically any other group in the Middle East outside e.g. cosmopolitan Gulf cities)?

A standard might be: uses suicide bombers.

An even more radical form would be: uses child suicide bombers.

Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system

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Post by Amir_A »

timcobb wrote: post #336
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #324

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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.

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Except it is...? Jews were living peacefully in Palestine long before the establishment of a judeo-supremacist apartheid state, to the point you had entire refugee boats of Ashkenazis seeking safe harbor from the holocaust, who ironically became the cornerstone founding population of the Jewish state after the Nakba in 1948 killed and forcefully expelled hundreds of thousands of people (it's the ultimate cautionary tale on unchecked immigration lol).

You start to have a problem when you try to forcibly alter the demographics of a region to become majority Jewish, in a region where the majority were not Jews. This is quite literally Zionism 101. If you don't think this is the root cause, what pray tell do you believe it is?

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