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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by luckman212 »

LogicFailsMe wrote: post #349
wayeq wrote: post #338

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> So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to introduce it without alienating customers. I'm certain the ads will be introduced in an easily identifiable and ignorable way. People will acclimate, user behavior will be analyzed, and over time the dial will ever so slowly be turned up to optimize for draining as much attention and money from the consumer as possible.

You'll just need to run a small local model to filter out the ads. And they just become another one of those silly arms races between the ad makers and the ad blockers and we all burn more electricity.

but AI will calculate precisely the optimal amount of electricity to waste. so, win win

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Post by auggierose »

rglullis wrote: post #308
auggierose wrote: post #179

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Very good question! 1% ?

You are vastly overestimating people's willingness to deal with bullshit, when the product does not have a real lock in. It would be incredibly easy to have a company offering their ChatGPT over WhatsApp or iMessage, and get people to start using it instead of an ad-ridden GPT app.

Maybe. But maybe you are vastly overestimating people's willingness to give a fuck, as long as they get what they came for. That is why ads rule.

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Post by lII1lIlI11ll »

fn-mote wrote: post #265
LastTrain wrote: post #156

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I just got back from Thanksgiving holiday with my family. Grade schools kids all the way up to great grandparents up to 81 years old. Engineers, active military, a nurse, high schoolers, two in college. Both coasts represented and Texas. Republicans, Democrats, and in-between. The one and only thing every single person had in common was an utter hatred of AI. And it wasn’t for a lack of understanding of how it will b…

Hatred of AI won’t stop others from steamrolling them and their jobs using AI. At this point, I have stopped hoping that LLMs will become vaporware.

I wouldn't bet on LLMs steamrolling jobs of a nurse or military personnel any time soon.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

isodev wrote: post #352
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #285

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Absolutely no business with any real money is going to be swayed to use one cloud provider over the other based on one vibe coded app. There is so much other stuff that goes into why business make decisions about any large contract. I’m not in cloud sales. But I venture just close enough to the sun not to get burned

> Absolutely no business with any real money is going to be swayed And what about everyone starting something? Or prototyping? And what if you don't have a choice: pay more or follow our sponsored guidelines? This is a dangerous road without proper defences both in terms of legislation and policy (and I mean world-wide, world corps = world laws, not having to go to court in every country lol). Also, end users need to…

The tax situation already happens now with Intuit owning both Turbo Tax and CreditKarma to get you to sign up for credit cards.

If I were prototyping something and found I could do it cheaper somewhere else, I’m not sure I would be upset. I hate ads just for the bad user experience.

As long as it is clearly an ad and they say they have affiliations. It’s no different than what Google and Amazon does now.

But ironically enough, I was almost about to pay for Overcast years ago even though the author openly admitted that you didn’t get much of anything for it except for supporting him back then.

He then added a non slimy self hosted system to buy ads for other podcasts based on the category of podcast you were listening to at that very second (no tracking). I thought that was a great service.

I think I would actually lean into a tight integration between ChatGPT and something like booking.com[1], AirBNB, GetYourGuide, etc when looking for travel ideas.

[1] Well I personally wouldn’t because I am not as cost conscience as the average traveler and I value the loyalty programs and status of certain hotel chains and Delta airlines. But most travelers don’t and shouldn’t care.

But if they let me put in my loyalty numbers and book directly with Hyatt, Hilton and Delta, hell I might pay more for ChatGPT.

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Post by sailingparrot »

pier25 wrote: post #210

So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business. Also that they don’t have any significant improvements to the tech coming up.

> So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business

Since when capitalism is about stopping trying to make more money right when you become profitable? If they can find a way to make 10x the revenue needed to be profitable, they will.

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Post by mindslight »

isodev wrote: post #355
mindslight wrote: post #342

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The current dynamic IS based on the new gestapo thinking they're "rising up and overthrowing a violent government", due to a propaganda bubble thirty years in the making. Where do you think "ICE" is getting all of these new recruits from? The red state militias that have been seething about the slow creep of bureaucratic authoritarianism, now deputized and told they get to use their weapons to attack the other tribe.…

So we agree, we shouldn't let AI companies mix their products with government or ad-inspired insights, right?

You seem to be stating this like I said something that might imply otherwise, but I can't figure it out even seeing you've got the GGGP comment. This thread kind of went off on a tangent that isn't directly addressing your original point.

But to hopefully answer your question - yes I'm in favor of wholesale importing the GDPR as-written into US law and letting the courts sort it out (sidestepping the corruption^Wlobbying process wherein corpos would make "small" edits that effectively gimp it with loopholes). I'm also in favor of antitrust enforcement against companies that anticompetitively bundle software with hardware and/or services - ie people should be able to choose software which doesn't have ads, rather than being coerced by the pressure of network effects. And if neither if those were enough to stamp out the consumer surveillance industry (aka "Big Tech") as we know it, then I'd support directly banning personalized advertising.

(I would support directly curtailing government from abusing commercial surveillance databases as well, but I don't see a straightforward meta-way to prevent that besides drastically shrinking the commercial databases to begin with)

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Post by inetknght »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #256
afavour wrote: post #131

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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

I can't wait for the instructions to start having ads embedded. 2. Place the turkey in your GE Two in One Oven set to 350, cooking for 10 minutes a lbs. 3. While waiting for your Turkey to finish cooking, why not have an ice cold Coke Zero? Click here for nearby locations. 4. Remove Turkey from the oven, let rest for ten minutes while listening to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars sing "Die with a Smile" on Spotify.

Missed opportunity for brands of turkeys

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Post by fwip »

jennyholzer wrote: post #99
fwip wrote: post #39

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One reason is that it means "general AI" is likely farther away. If it were close, they wouldn't need to spend resources on sucking pennies from their free users.

"general AI" is a lie. if you believe in "general AI", you are a sucker. if you believe in "general AI", you have been conned. Welcome to America.

I think you're right, but the people investing in AI seem to believe otherwise.
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