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Re: AI World Clocks

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Post by conradev »

tablatom wrote: post #316
ghurtado wrote: post #315

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In lucid dreams there's a whole category of things like this: reading a paragraph of text, looking at a clock (digital or analog), or working any kind of technology more complex than a calculator. For me personally, even light switches have been a huge tell in the past, so basically almost anything electrical. I've always held the utterly unscientific position that this is because the brain only has enough GPU cycles…

Wait, lucid dreamers need tells to know where they are?!?

The first time it happened to me, it was accidental. I dreamed that I was in a college classroom but I realized that I never went to college. I was not trying to and had never lucid dreamed before, and so it was very surprising.

Re: AI World Clocks

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Post by conradev »

DuperPower wrote: post #341
david-gpu wrote: post #330

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Plenty of folks out there know when they are dreaming just like they know when they are awake. It varies from person to person.

be careful as adding consciousness to a dream means CPU cycles so you wake Up more tired, its cool for kids and teens but grown adults shouldnt explore this to avoid bad rest

I met someone once who claimed that he lucid dreams almost every night by default and it is exhausting. He smokes weed at night to avoid dreaming entirely. I didn’t dig in super deep, but it sounded pretty intense!

Re: AI World Clocks

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Post by carterschonwald »

DrewADesign wrote: post #235
carterschonwald wrote: post #210

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Ive heard this actually works annoyingly well

We've created technology so sophisticated it is vulnerable to social engineering attacks.

Also the amount of adjacent remarks being always topical flsvor confusion is cartoonish. Im playing with ideas for making thst better

Re: AI World Clocks

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Post by DrewADesign »

carterschonwald wrote: post #363
DrewADesign wrote: post #235

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We've created technology so sophisticated it is vulnerable to social engineering attacks.

Also the amount of adjacent remarks being always topical flsvor confusion is cartoonish. Im playing with ideas for making thst better

You're absolutely right! People should pay attention to this broadly applicable and important consideration.

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Post by cluckindan »

dawidloubser wrote: post #356
cluckindan wrote: post #350

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However: do humans have that genuine substance? Is human invention and ingenuity more than trial and error, more than adaptation and application of existing knowledge? Can humans generalize outside their data set? A yes-answer here implies belief in some sort of gnostic method of knowledge acquisition. Certainly that comes with a high burden of proof!

Yes

Can you elaborate on what you mean by that, and prove it?

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09637214251336212

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Post by biztos »

overfeed wrote: post #309
jdietrich wrote: post #280

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Clock drawing is widely used as a test for assessing dementia. Sometimes the LLMs fail in ways that are fairly predictable if you're familiar with CSS and typical shortcomings of LLMs, but sometimes they fail in ways that are less obvious from a technical perspective but are exactly the same failure modes as cognitively-impaired humans. I think you might have stumbled upon something surprisingly profound. https://www…

> Clock drawing is widely used as a test for assessing dementia Interestingly, clocks are also an easy tell for when you're dreaming, if you're a lucid dreamer; they never work normally in dreams.

Do they look normal but just not work normally?

Maybe reality is a world of broken clocks, and they only “work” in the simulation.

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

jdietrich wrote: post #280
lanewinfield wrote: post #94

hi, I made this. thank you for posting. I love clocks and I love finding the edges of what any given technology is capable of. I've watched this for many hours and Kimi frequently gets the most accurate clock but also the least variation and is most boring. Qwen is often times the most insane and makes me laugh. Which one is "better?"

Clock drawing is widely used as a test for assessing dementia. Sometimes the LLMs fail in ways that are fairly predictable if you're familiar with CSS and typical shortcomings of LLMs, but sometimes they fail in ways that are less obvious from a technical perspective but are exactly the same failure modes as cognitively-impaired humans. I think you might have stumbled upon something surprisingly profound. https://www…

I would think the way humans draw clocks has more in common with image generation models (which probably do a bit better with this task overall) than a language model producing SVG markup, though.

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Post by BoredomIsFun »

ghurtado wrote: post #315
overfeed wrote: post #309

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> Clock drawing is widely used as a test for assessing dementia Interestingly, clocks are also an easy tell for when you're dreaming, if you're a lucid dreamer; they never work normally in dreams.

In lucid dreams there's a whole category of things like this: reading a paragraph of text, looking at a clock (digital or analog), or working any kind of technology more complex than a calculator. For me personally, even light switches have been a huge tell in the past, so basically almost anything electrical. I've always held the utterly unscientific position that this is because the brain only has enough GPU cycles…

My brain learned how to maintain legible text in dreams, I cannot use it in lucid dreaming anymore...

Re: AI World Clocks

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Post by RugnirViking »

whats going on with kimi k2 and being reasonable/so unique in so many of these benchmarks ive seen recently? I will have to try it out further for stuff. is it any good at programming?
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