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Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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That would be a valid argument if the prosecutions against Trump didn’t involve legal gymnastics like the ones Google uses to make all their profits appear to have been earned in Ireland: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-was-convicted-...

That was widely acknowledged as the weakest of 3 or 4 criminal investigations against Trump. He managed to stall the others.

> That was widely acknowledged as the weakest of 3 or 4 criminal investigations against Trump.

1) It's the case that was given the most attention by far (and furthered a persecution narrative that probably helped Trump). 2) The existence of other prosecutions does not excuse one that was done selectively and improperly.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Vs. Finland has reserves of 870 000 from a population of about 5.6 million. Via the magic of universal male conscription: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces#Conscri...

Conscription is slavery.

Not at all. It is part of the social contract here. Women are called up here in Norway because they campaigned for it, not because it was imposed.

And if you are called up but prefer not to bear arms you can do a civilian service instead.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Conscription is slavery.

Not at all. It is part of the social contract here. Women are called up here in Norway because they campaigned for it, not because it was imposed. And if you are called up but prefer not to bear arms you can do a civilian service instead.

That still doesn't not make it not slavery. What if you don't agree with the social contract?

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Not at all. It is part of the social contract here. Women are called up here in Norway because they campaigned for it, not because it was imposed. And if you are called up but prefer not to bear arms you can do a civilian service instead.

That still doesn't not make it not slavery. What if you don't agree with the social contract?

Do you call taxes slavery? Same thing.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Not when holding onto power is the goal. Force and more force.

Hold onto power? The cult of personality is one foot in the grave from natural causes. Canada has longer winters.

JD and plenty of others will just move in and hold on for as long as they can

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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How much useful combat skills can be taught in only a week? It seems like an extremely low estimate on the training needed to play a useful role in the military.

this generation was raised on Call of Duty. As long as they remain faithful in an immediate respawn, they'll make brave soldiers.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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>If you tell them that you want to enlist but will only do so if they guarantee a truck driver MOS on your contact then they'll absolutely take you unless they've already hit their limit for that fiscal year. (I think this is right, I've heard conflicting info about what recruiters can promise you) If they are official military, then the truck driver HAS been through Basic and knows the absolute minimum of combat. Yo…

Get it in writing and check the fine print. A recruiter might lie but an enlistment contract is exactly that: a legally enforceable agreement. If the contract guarantees a particular MOS and the recruit doesn't get it for whatever reason then they have the option to take a discharge instead of being reclassed. Even without a written guarantee, in volunteer forces the senior officers will generally get rid of new recr…

First time enlistees are absolutely not given the option of whatever job they want ex ante unless they ask/push. Many/most are not negotiating up front. Maybe truck driver was a bad example but there are many jobs that either require many people to fill them so recruiters push or significant screening so they are unrealistic posts for most.

Recruiters are known to have quotas and push hard. You think your average US Army Recruit manages this morass well?

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-jobs?position...

Even weirder that HN expects the average joe to “get it in writing and check the fine print.” A good number of recruits are not US citizens and may not speak english super well. Some 35k+ active duty and 5k+ added a year for the research inclined.

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I think some are too focused on recruiting or conscripting citizens for fighting a kinetic conflict. For the Five Eyes(Canada, US, UK, Australia, NZ) that don’t ever need to worry about conventional invasion, it’s far more about national resilience that relates to national defence. How does a nation rapidly adapt to warfare that is occurring beneath the threshold of conventional warfare, and in some cases general pub…

> For the Five Eyes(Canada, US, UK, Australia, NZ) that don’t ever need to worry about conventional invasion Australia is extremely at risk of conventional invasion, their current independence is a function of alliance to the strongest navy in the Pacific. Without a US that is willing and able to ensure Australia's free access to the surrounding ocean, AU is absolutely unable to deploy enough of their own military to…

I need to push back on your analysis on this. Quite hard actually.

Indonesia lacks the force projection capability to even project an expeditionary force into Northern Australia.

Sustaining an expeditionary force into Northern Australia by Indonesia would leave it incredibly vulnerable to air and sea supply chain interdiction.

With first hand professional domain experience, and without arrogance or hubris, an Indonesian invasion of Northern Australia would be disastrous for Indonesia.

China invading Australia would entail a much more capable, but entirely untested, expeditionary force over much longer and far more vulnerable supply chains.

With just FVEY intelligence support and FVEY forces already forward deployed into Australia, the likelihood of China successfully establishing and sustaining a beachhead to break into Australia with a conventional invasion would be similar to that of Indonesia, due to very long and very vulnerable supply chains.

Unless China glassed Australia with nuclear weapons, any attempt by Xi and the CCP's PLAN/PLAAF/PLA to conventionally invade Australia would be a moon shot too far.

China's fleet steaming south would be severely attrited transitting limited maritime traffic route bottlenecks that would be akin to cattle chutes in a slaughter house, while China's own energy/food/raw industrial materials commercial maritime supply chains would be existentially vulnerable.

That's just to Australia's current fleet of Collins class submarines and tanker supported F35s.

Australia's AUKUS nuclear submarine investment will magnify that current independent threat to China's maritime supply chain.

Which is odd, considering this comedic skit is partially true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cGYQneo-G8

Unconventional attack is far, far more likely. Thus requiring a focus on national resilience and adaptability to crisis.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Agreed. Also, even if Canada were to shut down all NORAD radars and command posts on Canadian territory and to kick out every US soldier and to tear up all agreements with the US, Canadian cities and important Canadian infrastructure within 100 miles of the US border (i.e., most Canadian population and infrastructure) would probably get nuked in a nuclear war just so that the US cannot rely on those resources during…

> A large nuclear exchange between great powers (and currently there are 3 great powers, the US, China and Russia) would be followed by the use of conventional military forces. E.g., The US would try to capture and hold the major ports of the power or powers that attacked it because holding those ports is the most effective way of denying the power the ability to deploy its own conventional forces outside its own ter…

Not with the new satellite constellation. It’s now nearly impossible to destroy US second strike capability without total earth destruction.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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outside edmonton and calgary the vast majority of the canadian population is within 100 miles of the US border. now imagine the logistics of a land invasion from northern canada. Shortest distance would be 1600 miles of wilderness. If you went from alert it would be more like 2500 miles of wilderness and several water crossings. All while you are being absolutely pummeled by US air support. It would be a suicide miss…

I think they might legitimately be worried about an invasion from the south.

Some of them are worried, but it depends on which echo chamber they subscribe to based on my on the ground northern information network.
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