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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by mlinhares »

derefr wrote: post #309
fn-mote wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent was funny but almost a non-sequitor. I appreciated the kernel of truth: industrial fridges will not come with adware in the foreseeable future. Buy industrial.

I mean, my point was that there are actually three different ways you can spend a lot of money on a fridge, and it's a lot like with PCs. You can buy: • a big ugly powerful repairable/durable industrial one (like a server); • an average-sized, somewhat-fancy (because high-trim), repairable/durable commercial one (like a workstation); • or an average-sized fancy "aesthetic" one, made by a design company rather than an…

What are the good brands of commercial/industrial we should be looking at?

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Post by whatshisface »

amarant wrote: post #340
lexszero_ wrote: post #209

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"You are so poor that when AWS goes down, you still can get into your house" -- seen somewhere

Which phase of capitalism is this? Suffering costs extra, and you'll gladly pay for it!

"As the Party slogan put it: ‘Proles and animals are free.’" - 1984

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Post by Retric »

nchmy wrote: post #354
II2II wrote: post #328

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It's probably more like a rich person will spend $50 on a pair of boots that will last 10 years, while a poor person will spend $10 on a pair of boots that will last a year. The upper middle class person will spend the $40 on a pair of boots that comes with surveillance and useless AI, while a middle class person will spend $30 for the same, except it bricks itself on the next firmware update.

where, outside of thrift stores, are you finding boots at these prices?

That’s actually roughly the price range to manufacture normal shoes. “The average production cost of a single pair of shoes ranges between $10 and $50. This includes materials, labor, and overhead.” https://hevashoeinc.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-manufacture...

What you actually pay is a large multiple of that covering the taxes, shipping, sales channel, marketing, etc.

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Post by sussmannbaka »

Every frog will be boiled. Remember this when you argue “oh but it will still be possible to sideload via adb” “oh but you can turn it off” “oh but you only need it on the first run” “at least they don’t…”

You won’t be able to. It will be mandatory. They will do it. If you give these companies an inch, they’ll take a mile.

The moment they don’t actively work entirely aligned with your interests, they work against you.

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Post by razighter777 »

commandersaki wrote: post #155
nerdsniper wrote: post #120

There's a $30,000 bounty set up for anyone who can patch the firmware to eliminate the ads. Please consider contributing additional donations against the matching funds. https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/samsung-familyhub-refrige...

I recall Louis saying that some (or all?) solutions to these bounties cannot be revealed to the public due to being liable under DMCA circumvention measures. IANAL.

They can be revealed volunarily by the author, but FULU can't require or condone it. Because of the DMCA section 1201, trafficking in circumvention tools to violate digital locks is a felony punishable by 3-5 years in federal prison.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

>This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance.

I saw someone else’s Samsung TV with ads on the input select menu…

That was enough to pre-ban myself from any future Samsung appliance.

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Post by Finnucane »

oh-4-fucks-sake wrote: post #176
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #116

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My house came with all Samsung appliances and I can't wait for all fo them to die. The dryer already went (8 years old). I've been replacing with mid-range LG on advice of the local repair company and been happy so far. Quirky and very few features but seems well built. Can't wait to replace the massive refrigerator and swap the gas range for inductive. Fridge is slowly going (cracked and leaking ice maker, condensat…

Speed Queen for washing machines. Bosch for dishwashers.

We’ve been pretty happy with the the Speed Queen set we bought a few years ago. No IoT crap.

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Post by SchemaLoad »

mynameisash wrote: post #259
darkwater wrote: post #184

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> What is the advantage of an inductive stove? That you can control temperature changes better than with a ceramic hob, on par with methane stoves. > I think in Europe they work with 360 V No, normal 230V (or 220V)

A few other advantages to induction: 1. Better air quality. You don't have combustion byproducts in the kitchen. 2. More efficient than both gas and conventional electric stoves. 3. Faster to heat than gas/conventional electric (due to the efficiency improvement) 4. Easier to clean (except for glass top stoves). I've yet to own a full-on induction stove, but I do regularly use the 120V induction hot plates in my kitc…

I've had the full permanent install induction stoves and the portable ones. The in counter ones are massively better. They have much larger heated areas so you don't get heat only in the middle of larger pans. They also have a much higher top power so you can boil water incredibly fast.

But even the portable ones are preferable to gas imo.

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