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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by godelski »

metabagel wrote: post #312
WXLCKNO wrote: post #120

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You know you can use CMD+backtick (CMD+`) to cycle between windows of the same app? Add shift to go in reverse. Or otherwise you can enable the app exposé feature to swipe down with three fingers and it will show you only windows of the same app.

This usually doesn't work for me. For example, if I open a new Firefox window, the Mac seems to force the two Firefox windows onto different desktops. This already is a struggle, because sometimes I don't want the windows to be on two desktops. I find that if I try to move one window to the same desktop as the other, then Mac will move the other desktop to the original desktop so they are both still on different desk…

  > two Firefox windows onto different desktops
My favorite is how it'll force move your workspace if you get a popup.

To reproduce, get a second monitor, throw your web browser onto that second monitor (not in full screen), and then open a application into full screen on your laptop's screen (I frequently have a terminal there). Then go to a site that gives you a popup for OAuth or a Security Key (e.g. GitHub, Amazon, Claude, you got a million options here). Watch as you get a jarring motion on the screen you aren't looking at, have to finish your login, and then move back to where you were.

  > Mac are truly a mystery to me
Everyone tells me how pretty and intuitive they are yet despite being on one for years I have not become used to them. It is amazing how many dumb and simple little problems there are that arise out of normal behavior like connecting a monitor. Like what brilliant engineer decided that it was a good idea to not allow certain resolutions despite the monitor... being that resolution? Or all the flipping back and forth. It's like they looked at the KDE workspaces and were like "Let's do that, but make it jarring and not actually have programs stay in their windows". I thought Apple cared about design and aesthetics but even as a Linux user I find these quite ugly and unintuitive.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by godelski »

dapperdrake wrote: post #343
metabagel wrote: post #312

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This usually doesn't work for me. For example, if I open a new Firefox window, the Mac seems to force the two Firefox windows onto different desktops. This already is a struggle, because sometimes I don't want the windows to be on two desktops. I find that if I try to move one window to the same desktop as the other, then Mac will move the other desktop to the original desktop so they are both still on different desk…

Full-screen windows (little green button at the top) seem to get "their own desktop". Has tripped me up a few times.

Or just put a program onto a second monitor then open a second window for that program. Usually it will not open in the same monitor. This is especially fun when you get pop-ups in browsers...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

apparent wrote: post #352
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #277

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All carriers are scammy in their own way

MVNOs FTW. They know they're competing for price-conscious consumers so have to offer more value. The big 3 know most of their customers are going to go with one of the big boys, all of whom are expensive and not great.

MVNOs have slower data rates since they buy deprioritized traffic in bulk, don’t have the roaming agreements domestically and especially not internationally, and don’t offer unlimited high speed data.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by throwaway894345 »

subarctic wrote: post #273
throwaway894345 wrote: post #212

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That would be about a 15% increase, which is probably in the ballpark to be explained by tariffs (either existing or anticipatory)?

Are there any markets where they are 15% cheaper due to not having the US's tarriffs?

Good question, although I don't think they would price them differently because the Trump administration has openly signaled hostility toward private companies who would transparently pass on tariff costs and Apple has openly signaled subservience to the Trump administration.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by nicoburns »

godelski wrote: post #354
coldtea wrote: post #84

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> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

> Sounds more like a you problem I'm sorry, I just really hate this Apple Fanboy rhetoric. It's frequent and infuriating. Don't get me wrong, I hate it when the linux people do it too, but they tend to tell you how to get shit done while being mean. The biggest problem with Linux is poor interfaces[0] but the biggest problem with Apple is handcuffs. And honestly, I do not find Apple interfaces intuitive. Linux interf…

> With Apple, it is "Do things the Apple way, or not at all".

Well kinda, you don't have to use all that much Apple software on macs though. If you can live with the window manager / desktop environment then you can use whichever apps you choose for pretty anything else.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

leakycap wrote: post #346
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #323

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Price, customer service

Based on the type of responses you are giving, I actually do believe you probably call your phone company's customer service regularly. So perhaps your criteria might be different. Have you heard of Consumer Cellular?

Consumer cellular rate plans are the same price as T-Mobile and they don’t have international roaming included.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by robenkleene »

deaddodo wrote: post #358
robenkleene wrote: post #230

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> I don't agree with OP's sentiment that macOS is a bad dev environment, but surely I prefer Linux+KDE as an overall dev environment. I find that all the tools I need are there but that I'm fighting the UI/UX enough to make it a hassle relative to KDE. This sounds like you think macOS is a good dev environment, but that you personally don't like the UI/UX (always safer to make UI/UX judgements subjective ["I don't li…

I literally started off my comment saying that it's not bad. That means it's neutral-good, by definition. I can easily develop on both, I prefer developing on Linux. Thus, it is "more good" (IMO), if you prefer.

Sorry, you're 100% right, I misread your comment.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by nicoburns »

leakycap wrote: post #289
nektro wrote: post #285

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um no; that's a reason to upgrade the battery, not get a new laptop

How much would you charge me to swap out my MacBook Pro 2018 15.4" battery using authorized methods to not cause other damage? I want my laptop back within a few days, a 90 day warranty on parts and labor, and I want a genuine Apple battery - not some unknown 3rd party.

For battery replacement you really want to take this to a local electronics repair shop (read the reviews so you find a good one). They'll do it same day or next day.

It'll probably be around $200-$300 if you want an official battery. More like half that if you're willing to accept a 3rd party one.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by lholden »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life.

The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because of all the interdependent bits (xcode, brew, etc) that often ended up breaking my dev environment in some way. It also always amazed me at the stuff that was missing. Like, how isn't the default terminal app fully functional after all these years? On the plus side, over the time I used it they did add tiling and the ability to hide the notch.

Finally at the start of the year I moved back to Linux and couldn't be happier. Had forgotten just how nice it is to have everything I need out of the box. The big thing I miss is Affinity Photo, though that looks like it's in the middle of dying right now.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by brailsafe »

Casteil wrote: post #308
brailsafe wrote: post #265

Probably great, but when the hell are they going to do another damn colour. Hoping by the time I upgrade from the M4 Pro they'll have a green version and a cell modem.

I wish they'd bring Space Gray back. Not a huge fan of Silver, and the 'Space Black' apparently tends to show smudges more.

Meh, I have a Space Black 16" atm, it looks more grey than anything and the smudges are negligible at best. I'm just bored of the lack of variety. The Air is I guess supposed to be the quirky fun computer and the rest are just for "serious" professionals that can only see in grey and silver.
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