There isn't an amount of money you could pay me (or maybe there is at the limit!) to have one of these wandering around my home ...
I think these robotic companies need to move away from humanoid appearance / form.
Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot
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To add to that, a good friend of mine is a welder and machinist (and still using Linux on the desktop years after I set him up). A robot 'helper' that just moves things around and maybe does basic machine work (cutting pipe and threading the ends, for example) would put his productivity through the roof. Same story with a guy who specializes in kitchen remodeling. It's hard to find decent general purpose help these d…
Once it’s able to weld and climb then building skyscrapers will become a lot easier and cheaper as you don’t need safety equipment for them.
Yeah, just let them fall on top on someone/something below!
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#363I would love to have something like this for all the chores around my house. But I also have serious reservations about the increased level insight into my private home life this could provide to the manufacturer. Look at cases like the ring camera security violations [1]. A moving robot could be an order of magnitude more invasive of your privacy. If I were to purchase this, I would want serious privacy guarantees.…
These robots have cameras in their hands, so they can get stuff out of cupboards, but that can also be used to see around corners.
Going to be a wild ride.
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It depends on the battery life. If the robot lasts all day, then charging at night via standing on a charging pad makes a lot of sense. Creating a removable battery pack adds extra weight and gives the designers less freedom to place the battery pack exactly where it needs to be in the robot frame, or distribute the cells across the frame in strategic locations. Also, the charge rate matters. If robot can charge to 8…
Yeah so in 2-4 years you can throw out your whole expensive robot because battery wears out? I hate this argument that just to be a bit thinner, the whole device has to be be made throwaway.
People do that with phones. Given that humanoid robots are very early in their development cycle why wouldn't they need to be replaced physically?
Joints will need replacement, lubrication, other maintenance. Same with motors, so why not replacing power/battery as part of a part?
It's not about making them "thinner". The idea is that they are human sized, because they're designed to operate in human occupied areas.
The first places are going to be like Amazon warehouses doing pick and pack because of the speed and all the variations of boxes and packages.
That's a relatively controlled environment, they'll evolve from there.
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It's HN. One of the most negative places on the internet in my experience. I guess it's kind of natural because when you agree with stuff there's not much value saying "yes this is right" but if you disagree then you generally have a lot to say about why. But also I think there are a lot of curmudgeons here. Back in my day we didn't need no stinkin robots and AI and toktik . And anyway I could make a way better robot…
To be honest, the vibe of Hacker News is starting to grow on me. Yes, it's often too negative and you have to dose it, but we shouldn't view technology as magic. It's sometimes a hard pill to swallow, but even the creators of AI, robotics, and cloud innovations can be blind to the significant roadblocks that lie ahead; progress isn't linear. I remain excited about AI and my master's thesis on fine-tuning transformers…
I guess it beats the LinkedIn vibe where everything is perfect and amazing!
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#366All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…
Rodney Brooks (of iRobot fame) wrote an essay recently about why humanoids are likely decades and not years away from fulfilling their promise. It is quite long, but even a gpt summary will be quite valuable. https://rodneybrooks.com/why-todays-humanoids-wont-learn-dex... In short, he makes the case that unlike text and images, human dexterity is based on sensory inputs that we barely understand, that these robots do…
came here to see if anyone had read Rodney's recent essay - and to ask how does this announcement by Figure square with Rodney's essay.
The essay was long so I cant claim I read it in detail - one q in my mind is whether humanoids need to do dexterity the same way that humans do. yes they dont have skin and tiny receptors but maybe there is another way to develop dexterity?
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#367Crazy to me how negative the comments are here. None of this was even remotely possible less than 5 years ago. Now, we're demoing consumer-facing robotics that will soon, within a couple iterations, be able to perform most of your household tasks without issue. The frog boils quickly.
> be able to perform most of your household tasks without issue.
Nice, we'll be able to work on more day for our overlords! rejoice!
Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot
#368I would love to have something like this for all the chores around my house. But I also have serious reservations about the increased level insight into my private home life this could provide to the manufacturer. Look at cases like the ring camera security violations [1]. A moving robot could be an order of magnitude more invasive of your privacy. If I were to purchase this, I would want serious privacy guarantees.…
I would want the robot to be programmed to immediately leave any room a member of our family enters, always cleaning only the empty rooms
I have decided I will be getting a robot once they are useful. But my plan is for it to only come out when no one is home or when everyone is upstairs (but not allowed to come in rooms where people are sleeping). It can do dishes while wearing a headlamp. They move so slowly it should be fairly quiet.
Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot
#369Crazy to me how negative the comments are here. None of this was even remotely possible less than 5 years ago. Now, we're demoing consumer-facing robotics that will soon, within a couple iterations, be able to perform most of your household tasks without issue. The frog boils quickly.
I think the point is that we all want a robot to do the laundry and pack the dishwasher, but basically no one wants to be greeted by a robot when they arrive at a hotel.
They are selling it the way AI has been sold. This will replace everyone's jobs. Thing is everyone is tired now, so many pointless layoffs, massive bubble, "AI-First"-desperate-ass companies.
Who will buy the robots if we are all unemployed?
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#370It's going to be wild when these things cost 30 grand, and we all start having them in our houses. Along with fusion, I think robots in the home will be the defining technology of our generation. It's been talked about and fictionalized forever, and within my lifetime I expect the economics on it to finally break through. Equal parts terror, awe, fear, when it comes to having a robot in my home.
> It's going to be wild when these things cost 30 grand, and we all start having them in our houses
> 30 grand
> we all start having them in our houses
Have you traveled ? Even a bit ? Most people don't make 30k in a year, before tax. It just shows how utterly disconnected from reality tech people, and especially execs, are. Virtually no one is going to pay 30k for a bot to mop the floor and fold their clothes
As for myself even if you'd pay me 30k I'd refuse to have one.