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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by criddell »

kisamoto wrote: post #320
darkamaul wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see why you wouldn’t book a flight using an AI assistant. No one’s saying it should do it completely unsupervised (maybe that’ll come much later), but having something that can research the best routes based on my criteria and show me several options — with a single click to purchase the one I find most convenient — is something I’d love. It could even work against the dynamic pricing algorithms airlines use…

I suppose you just have to trust that it's incentivized to find you the best route and not only offer you 3 options which it says are the best, but are actually paid promotions.

It depends too on what you value. I’d be more than happy to pay a premium if it meant the time for me looking for a flight and having a seat booked is drastically reduced.

We used to get that through the services of a travel agency. Maybe we will soon have that luxury again?

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by sofixa »

whstl wrote: post #335
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

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I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I feel the same, but Airline and big hotel websites have way too many dark patterns made to confuse the user and force them to pay extra. Booking an emergency flight last time I had a family issue was a mind-fucking experience. I had to go through 10 screens trying to sell me stuff and constantly hiding the skip button in different places. Maybe HN will say that I "shouldn't have had a family emergency in the first p…

This is sadly prevalent in some niches (e.g. low cost travel), but I don't think LLMs would be able to navigate those dark patterns better than humans would.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by sofixa »

TheDong wrote: post #303
OccamsMirror wrote: post #293

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I wonder how many of those “average users” will actually happily pay what the true cost is though? Are they really getting perceivable value for it or is it just more convenient than present day Google.

They all pay the price of google (micro-brainwashing by ads to buy things they don't need). I think the average person will happily pay the same price to OpenAI (being micro-brainwashed by the AI to buy things they don't need, i.e. ads). I feel confident OpenAI will be able to charge even more for ads than Google since OpenAI will be able to influence people even more strongly, and hide the ads even better.

But OpenAI's costs are exponentially higher than Google's (even taking into account the various Google freebies they don't charge for).

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by klysm »

saxelsen wrote: post #298
klysm wrote: post #248

I guess openai is trying to execute the google playbook?

I'll bet $100 they're seeing an opportunity to dethrone Google as the entrance point to the web and this is a big part of it. It feels like OpenAI's mission has changed from "We want to do do AGI" to "it'll be easier to do AGI with a lot of money, so let's make a lot of money first" to "we have a shot at becoming bigger than Google and stealing their revenue. Let's do that and maybe do AGI if that ever works out"

I don’t think openai is that goal oriented around AGI whatever their posturing may be. They have to cash in eventually and are probably trying to figure out a pathway to a viable business.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

jwpapi wrote: post #289
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

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I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

Here's somewhat of a counter example. At work our llm project can schedule you time off. Workday already has a dedicated UI for this, so text interface can't be better right? Well it's a very popular feature, people use it all the time. In my opinion it's not better than a dedicated UI, but for some people it's good enough and more convenient (our site loads much faster than workday, they are likely already using it throughout their day, etc.)

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by workingnbar »

jeremyjh wrote: post #237
glenstein wrote: post #214

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I think you're right that it's going to get enshittified (in fact I tried to say a similar thing toward the end of my comment). I'll stand by this though, LLM Chat, as it exists now, is (imo) objectively better than Google Search, as it is now. Google Search at its best (or, say, Kagi), vs LLM Chat at its best, I would say there's an interesting open question, but I can see the case for chat winning. But I think it's…

I'll say it: ChatGPT is better than Kagi, and better than Google Search 1.0 at searching the web and finding relevant sources, even if that is all you use it for is to just find links that you read. Usually its analysis is sound if I don't know anything about the subject matter.

My 5 year-old nephew's analysis is also sound when you don't know anything about the subject matter

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by esafak »

falcor84 wrote: post #105
esafak wrote: post #77

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Specialize, escape, or accept.

Like "Abort, Retry, Fail"? And same as there, what's the difference between the first and the third? Is there a way of accepting a new sdk every week without specializing?

Specializing means bypassing the problem. Accepting means welcoming or acquiescing.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by therealdrag0 »

emilsedgh wrote: post #31

I see a lot of negative comments here but to me, it was obvious this is where OAI should land. They want to be the platform in which you tell what you want, and OAI does it for you. It's gonna connect to your inbox, calendar, payment methods, and you'll just ask it to do something and it will, using those apps. This means OAI won't need ads. Just rev share.

Don’t they already have ads? I think I’ve seen sponsored results when asking for product recommendations. Maybe misremembering tho.
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