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Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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You're forgetting that you're talking nation states, here. Breaking encryption is in fact the role of the people you are giving access. Sovereign delivery makes sense for _nations_.

You can use and abuse encrypted one time pads and multiple countries to guarantee it’s not retrievable.

Using a OTP in your backup strategy adds way more complexity, failure modes, and costs with literally no improvement in your situation.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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I spent a week of my life at a major insurance company in Seoul once, and the military style security, the obsession with corporate espionage, when all they were working on was an internal corporate portal for an insurance company… The developers had to use machines with no Internet access, I wasn’t allowed to bring my laptop with me lest I use it to steal their precious code. A South Korean colleague told me it was…

I've done some work for a large SK company and the security was manageable. Certainly higher than anything I've seen before or after and with security theater aspects, but ultimately it didn't seriously get in the way of getting work done.

I think it makes sense that although this is a widespread problem in South Korea, some places have it worse than others; you obviously worked at a place where the problem was more moderate. And I went there over a decade ago, and maybe even the place I was at has lightened up a bit since.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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post #80

https://phrack.org/issues/72/7_md#article

When you see a chronology like that, you don't keep trying to speak truth to power. You delete your data, trash your gear, and hop on a bus, to start over in some other city, in a different line of work.

And with no technology! Perhaps become some kind of ascetic monk.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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post #80

https://phrack.org/issues/72/7_md#article

Though this is far from the most important points of this article, why do even the article’s authors defend Proton after having their accounts suspended, and after having seemingly a Korean intelligence official warn them that they weren’t secure? Even if they’re perfectly secure they clearly do not have the moral compass people believe they have.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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> America is not a stable ally, and has a history of spying on friends America is a shitty ally for many reasons. But spying on allies isn’t one of them. Allies spy on allies to verify they’re still allies. This has been done throughout history and is basic competency in statecraft.

That doesn’t capture the full truth. Since Snowden, we have hard evidence the NSA has been snooping on foreign governments and citizens alike with the purpose of harvesting data and gathering intelligence, not just to verify their loyalty. No nation should trust the USA, especially not with their state secrets, if they can help it. Not that other countries are inherently more trustworthy, but the US is a known bad ac…

There is no such thing as good or trustworthy actors when it comes to state affairs. Each and every one attempt to spy on the others. Perhaps US have more resources to do so than some others.

You really have no evidence to back up your assertion, because you’d have to be an insider.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Woah, read the timeline at the top of this. The fire happened the very day the government ordered onsite inspection was supposed to start due to Chinese/NK hacking.

Phrack's timeline may read like it, but it wasn't an onsite inspection due to hacking, but a scheduled maintenance to replace the overdue UPS, hence battery-touching involved. Even the image they linked just says "scheduled maintenance."

Supply chain interceptions can happen for batteries and other electronics being used.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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> 27th of September 2025, The fire is believed to have been caused while replacing Lithium-ion batteries. The batteries were manufactured by LG, the parent company of LG Uplus (the one that got hacked by the APT). Compromised batteries or battery controllers?

Witness A said, “It appears that the fire started when a spark flew during the process of replacing the uninterruptible power supply,” and added, “Firefighters are currently out there putting out the fire. I hope that this does not lead to any disruption to the national intelligence network, including the government’s 24 channel.”[1] [1] https://mbiz.heraldcorp.com/article/10584693

How large is this UPS that a fire can bring down all 96 servers?

This story is really unbelievable.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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I must say, at least for me personally when I hear about such levels of incompetence it rings alarm bells in my head making me think that maybe intentional malice was involved. Like someone higher up had set up the whole thing to happen in such a matter because there was a benefit to this happening we are unaware of. I think this belief maybe stems from lack of imagination on how really stupid humans can get.

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