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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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I do not go to any fox sites, so here is a dup using a different news site for this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45461951

No surprise here, all companies would do the same. But I was planning on moving to Apple once my current Android fails, not now.

I am hoping the Linux Phone I hear about advances to the point where my Cell Service supports it. Will see because I am pretty much done with Android and Apple.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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post #119

Methinks this won’t be the last politically-motivated removal from Apple’s App Store; the more apps they remove then the more they weaken their own arguments about how a locked-in walled garden is in consumer interests.

Apple removed a lot of apps from the store in order to stay present in Russia. Just business

Just business under an authoritarian regime. Things happening the way they happen in Russia is not exactly something I'd aspire to, or readily accept…

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that most people will not hear about this app being removed. (Though note that it's being reported here in "normal people" news, not tech news.) But it's far from the only way Cook has aligned himself with Trump in just the last few months. The dumb gold-glass plaque and the UK royal visit are two much more visible examples.

Doing what he needs to avoid tariffs is fine in my book. It's practically his responsibility towards shareholders.

> Doing what he needs to avoid tariffs is fine in my book.

And from above:

> The most important thing is not getting tariffed.

I am curious where your personal line is. Surely you have one. If the only way Cook could avoid tariffs were to go on live TV and swear his allegiance to the KKK, would you still support that? What if the only way were for him to pursue direct legal action against you and your family until you’re bankrupt? Eating live puppies? What exactly would you consider to be “too much”?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html They were called mutable torrents. A private key would allow the originator to push out updates via dhts.

this is really neat. I've been looking for this sort of functionality with IPNS, but it seems like bittorrent could be better. Do clients implement this yet?

It has been 15+ years since i looked into it. I do remember using it with transmission so it may be out there already.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Back in 2011, Apple removed apps that crowdsourced warnings about DUI checkpoints. It remains Apple's policy today. According to Grok, "In March 2011, four Democratic senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.)—sent letters to Apple, Google, and Research in Motion (BlackBerry's parent company) urging the removal of such apps […]" So, we have precedent wher…

> According to Grok

Do you have any sources that aren't prone to hallucination and fits of partisan, racially-charged, conspiratorial hysteria?

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Google is making it so sideloading APKs on Android is no longer possible. This is one of many great reasons why that should not happen.

Google disputes that: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-...

Unverified developers can still use adb to install whatever they choose per the link:

“How does developer verification impact my use of Android Studio?

We are working to ensure these changes don’t have an impact on your day-to-day workflow so you can continue building your apps as smoothly as possible. Participating in developer verification will not affect your experience in Android Studio, the official IDE for Android app development. You will continue to be able to build and run an app even if your identity is not verified. Android Studio is unaffected because deployments performed with adb, which Android Studio uses behind the scenes to push builds to devices, is unaffected. You can continue to develop, debug, and test your app locally by deploying to both emulators and physical devices, just as you do now.”

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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I keep wondering how all of this ICE stuff will eventually play out. Number of illegal emigrants in the USA is estimated to be between 11-20 millions. How much does it cost to send ICE team after a single emigrant? Then holding this emigrant in custody, then costs of deportation to the country of origin. This looks like another enterprise like "war on terror" that costed trillions, hasn't given anything USA, but lack…

Only about 20% of people deported have been rounded up by ICE, etc - the rest have chosen self deportation.

If I had to mind read the admin, I would imagine they intend ICE to go after the hardened criminals who, making a profit or being wanted, won't self deport under any circumstance.

Meanwhile most people who have just migrated illegally will generally self deport or do a really good job of blending in.

Obviously ICE is still going to sweep up anyone and everyone they can. The fed exists, and has always existed, to be a boot not a scalpel.

In theory local law enforcement is supposed to be the more targeted localized tool but because immigration enforcement has become partisan, they are either restricted from doing anything migration related or are going overboard to suck up to the fed.

Systems out of alignment grow more severe.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Back in 2011, Apple removed apps that crowdsourced warnings about DUI checkpoints. It remains Apple's policy today. According to Grok, "In March 2011, four Democratic senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.)—sent letters to Apple, Google, and Research in Motion (BlackBerry's parent company) urging the removal of such apps […]" So, we have precedent wher…

> According to Grok Do you have any sources that aren't prone to hallucination and fits of partisan, racially-charged, conspiratorial hysteria?

https://www.autoblog.com/news/apple-to-reject-apps-that-incl...
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