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Re: Sora 2

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Post by echelon »

cyrialize wrote: post #263
saguntum wrote: post #205

I wonder if they're going to license this to brands for heavily personalized advertisement. Imagine being able to see videos of yourself wearing clothes you're buying online before you actually place the order, instead of viewing them on a model. If they got the generation "live" enough, imagine walking past a mirror in a department store and seeing yourself in different clothes. Wild times.

I'm fairly certain there is a scene in Minority Report just like this! Or at least, the advertisement says Tom Cruise's character's name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)

In 2023, Carvana ran an ad campaign that showed you a video of "your car" thanking you and talking about your time together:

https://adage.com/article/digital-marketing-ad-tech-news/car...

A little creepy, but very much in this vein.

We probably haven't even scratched the surface of what will be done with this tech. When video becomes "easy", "quick", "affordable", and "automatable" (something never before possible on any of those dimensions) - it enables countless new things to be done.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by kfajdsl »

zarzavat wrote: post #170
stan_kirdey wrote: post #129

That could totally power next generation of green-screen techs. Generative actors may not find favorable response in the audiences; but SFX, decor, extras, environments that react to actors' actions - amazing potential.

I can see that future generations are going to think that I'm boomer for preferring the performances of real actors instead of AI slop. The music industry already went through this with AutoTune and we know how that turned out.

> The music industry already went through this with AutoTune and we know how that turned out.

Yeah, it turned out that almost all mainstream tracks nowadays have post-processing on vocals (the extent varying between genres and styles).

Re: Sora 2

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Post by felixakiragreen »

notatoad wrote: post #338
neilv wrote: post #327

> And we're introducing Cameo, giving you the power to step into any world or scene, and letting your friends cast you in theirs. How much are they (and providers of similar tools) going to be able to keep anyone from putting anyone else in a video, shown doing and saying whatever the tool user wants? Will some only protect politicians and celebrities? Will the less-famous/less-powerful of us be harassed, defamed, ex…

it seems like this is basically youtube's ContentID, but for your face. as long as you upload your "cameo" aka facial scan to them, they can recognize and control the generation of videos with it. if you don't give them your face, then they can't/won't. "Consent-based likeness. Our goal is to place you in control of your likeness end-to-end with Sora. We have guardrails intended to ensure that your audio and image li…

Brilliant.

Until you have 2 people that are near identical. They don’t even have to be twins, there are plenty of examples where people can’t even tell other people apart. How is an AI going to do it?

You don’t own your likeness. It’s not intellectual property. It’s a constantly changing representation of a biological being. It can’t even be absolutely defined— it’s always subject to the way in which it was captured. Does a person own their likeness for all time? Or only their current likeness? What about more abstract representations of their likeness?

The can of worms OpenAI is opening by going down this path is wild. We’re not current able to solve such a complex issue. We can’t even distinguish robots from humans on the internet.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by bsenftner »

qgin wrote: post #169

VFX artists are definitely feeling the AGI / considering other career paths today.

VFX artist and developer here, who's deep into this stuff, and it is really not there. It's an island of itself, barely controllable and barely usable with other media. They are just now getting around to generating alpha channels, with virtual none of the existing pipelines for any AI video or image generation tools to even incorporate and work with alpha channels. This is just one of several hundred aspects of incompatibility. It really seriously appears as of no one at any of the AI video generation research teams has any professional media production experience, or even bothered too look at existing media production data standards, and what they are making tool-wise is incompatible in every possible respect.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by mvdtnz »

notatoad wrote: post #338
neilv wrote: post #327

> And we're introducing Cameo, giving you the power to step into any world or scene, and letting your friends cast you in theirs. How much are they (and providers of similar tools) going to be able to keep anyone from putting anyone else in a video, shown doing and saying whatever the tool user wants? Will some only protect politicians and celebrities? Will the less-famous/less-powerful of us be harassed, defamed, ex…

it seems like this is basically youtube's ContentID, but for your face. as long as you upload your "cameo" aka facial scan to them, they can recognize and control the generation of videos with it. if you don't give them your face, then they can't/won't. "Consent-based likeness. Our goal is to place you in control of your likeness end-to-end with Sora. We have guardrails intended to ensure that your audio and image li…

I'm an identical twin so immediately I can see a pretty stupid obvious problem with this.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by SkyBelow »

haolez wrote: post #168

One use that occurred to me is that fans will be able to "fix" some movies that dropped the ball. For example, I saw a lot of people criticizing "Wish" (2023, Disney) for being a good movie in the first half, and totally dropping the ball in the last half. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm wondering if fans will be able to evolve the source material in the future to get the best possible version of it. Maybe we will eve…

My issue is that the copyright aspect are what prevents me from using this as much as I otherwise would.

About 6 months ago I asked a few different AIs if they could translate a song for me as a learning experience, meaning not a simple translation, but more a word by word explanation of what each word meant, how it was conjugated, any more musical/lyrical only uses that aren't common outside of songs, and so on. I was consistently refused on copyright grounds, despite this seeming a fair use given the educational nature. If I pasted a line of the lyrics at a time, it would work initially, but eventually I would need to start a new chat because the AI determined I translated too much at once.

So in this one, if I wanted to ask it to create a video of the moment in Final Fantasy 6 when the bad guy wins, or a video of the main characters of Final Fantasy 7 and 8 having a sword duel, would it outright refuse for copyright reasons?

It sounds like it would block me, which makes me lose a bit of interest in the technology. I could try to get around it, but at what point might that lead to my account being flagged as a trouble maker trying to bypass 'safety' features. I'm hoping in a few years the copyright fights on AI dies down and we get more fair use allowance instead of the tighter limitations to try to prevent calls for tighter regulation.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by unfitted2545 »

ionwake wrote: post #277

I think HN is too political like this tech is clearly amazing and it’s great they shipped it there should be more props even if it’s a billion dollar company.

There's a great lyric from ELUCID I think about when people say stuff like this:

> I don't have the privilege to think everything ain't political

Re: Sora 2

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Post by linuxftw »

Scrapemist wrote: post #247
qoez wrote: post #27

I know the comments here are gonna be negative but I just find this so sick and awesome. Feels like it's finally close to the potential we knew was possible a few years ago. Feels like a pixar moment when CG tech showed a new realm of what was possible with toy story

Pixar moment for me means a novel techonology evoking a profound emotional response for the first time. This was not it.

The ability for the masses to create any video just by typing, among the other features, is not novel technology? Or is it just the lack of emotional response?

Re: Sora 2

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Post by colesantiago »

echelon wrote: post #358
colesantiago wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically deepfakes for everyone.

Honestly this is the safest possible outcome. If Deepfakes remain the tools of nation state actors, laypeople will be easily fooled. If Deepfakes are available on your iPhone and within TikTok, everyone will just ask "Is it Photoshop?" for every shred of doubt. (In fact, I already see people saying, "This looks like AI".) This is good. Normalize the magic until it isn't magic anymore. People will get it. They're smar…

> People will get it. They're smart. They just need exposure.

I really doubt this.

If you are in the creative field, your work will just be reduced to "is this slop?" or "fixed it!" with a low effort AI generated work of your original work (fuck copyright right?).

I already see artists battling and fighting putting out their best non AI work only for their audience to question if it is real and they lose the impressiveness.

This just already undermines creators who don't use AI generated stuff.

But who cares about them right? "it is the future" and it is most definitely AGI for them.

But then again, the starving artist never really made any money and this ensures that the artform stays dead.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by inerte »

haolez wrote: post #168

One use that occurred to me is that fans will be able to "fix" some movies that dropped the ball. For example, I saw a lot of people criticizing "Wish" (2023, Disney) for being a good movie in the first half, and totally dropping the ball in the last half. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm wondering if fans will be able to evolve the source material in the future to get the best possible version of it. Maybe we will eve…

Just yesterday I learned "This summer, two Dramione fics turned rewritten novels became New York Times bestsellers" - https://slate.com/culture/2025/09/alchemised-senlinyu-harry-...

100% sure we will see people re-doing movie parts. Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_Edit

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