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Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by mrheosuper »

sgerenser wrote: post #306
Reason077 wrote: post #236

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Here's the comparison between the M4 iPad Pro and the M5: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/14173685?baseli... About 10% faster for single-core and 16% faster for multi-core compared to the M4. The iPad M5 has the same number of cores and the same clock speed as the M4, but has increased the RAM from 8GB to 12GB.

M4 iPads with the top two storage tiers (1 or 2 TB) already come with 12 GB. Maybe they’re changing to all having 12GB though, who knows.

All the pro iphone has 12gb of ram now, so it's safe to assume all pro ipad will have the same amount of ram.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by mrheosuper »

School-Cotton wrote: post #262
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #96

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In all honesty, I don't think cpu has ever been a huge limitation for me outside of gaming. The biggest bottlenecks for me have always been disk speed and memory. My soon-to-be decade old xps 13 gets on well enough, except it only has 8gb of soldered on ram. That absolutely is a bottle neck for me.

I guess you don’t work in C++ or Rust. Compile times are a bitch and they’re completely CPU-bound.

How often do you rebuild your C++/Rust? You may consider adding some cache system.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by mrheosuper »

dylan604 wrote: post #174
ceayo wrote: post #101

Why would it have 9 cores? Feels a bit weird to have an (a) uneven and (b) not a power of two amount of cores on a processor.

AMD used to have a 3 core desktop CPU. IIRC it was because one of the intended 4 cores was bad but they could salvage the package by making it 3 cores. The 3 core option was so popular, that they kept it once the 4th core issues were resolve with a software patch. Clever people figured out how to enable it once installed and got a 4th core for free. Never used it myself, and only heard tales about it. Could be urban…

It is true. I remember when the process became more mature, almost all 3 cores CPU can be unlocked.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by jl6 »

epicureanideal wrote: post #295
jackothy wrote: post #244

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What is that, 6 years for less than a doubling? Nothing against the Apple chips themselves, but gone are the days of Moore...

Not necessarily. If single core speed doubled but we also doubled or tripled the number of cores, doesn’t that count as keeping up with Moore?

M1 has 16bn transistors, M4 has 28bn. Increasing the core count is useful for some applications (particularly GPU cores), but there are still many critical workloads that are gated by single-threaded performance.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by sib »

onionisafruit wrote: post #235
tedk-42 wrote: post #226

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A car that travels 0-60 MPH in 2 seconds is fast A car that does this in 4 seconds is still fast (though twice as slow)

If they both top out at 60 they are equally fast. One just had better acceleration than the other

Yes - typically the (US English, at least) jargon is "quick" for acceleration and "fast" for top speed...

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by hbogert »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #309
onionisafruit wrote: post #235

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If they both top out at 60 they are equally fast. One just had better acceleration than the other

Top speed hardly matters for cars. Acceleration is where fun is. Not sure this applies to CPUs at all.

Acceleration is actually a thing. The CPU needs to ramp up cycles fast if it wants to feel snappy. It needs to wind down as soon as no significant workload is there anymore. All needed for good efficiency

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by bigiain »

ulfw wrote: post #356
dwd wrote: post #345

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Between personal and home, I've had a: M1 (16Gb) M1 Pro (16Gb) M2 Pro (16Gb) M3 Pro (32Gb) M4 Air (24Gb) Currently switch between the M2 Pro and the M4 Air, and the Air is noticeable snappier in everyday tasks. The 17' M3 Pro is the faster machine, but I prefer not to lug it around all day, so it gets left home and occasionally used by the wife.

What is a 17' M3 Pro?

A 17 foot tall MacBook, which was Steve's original vision sketched on a napkin.

Not the 17 inch tall one they built and put on stage for the MacWorld keynote speech - that was in danger of being trod upon by a dwarf.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by hamburglar »

nxobject wrote: post #349
hamburglar wrote: post #340

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> Apple made multi-CPU Macs available, with the earliest being the summer 2000 revision of PowerMac G4 tower Earlier. I did some multiprocessing work on an SMP PowerPC Mac in 1997.

Would this have been with MacOS 7’s Multiprocessing Services? I managed to play with an SMP Mac clone (DayStar Genesis MP), but all I really could do in the end is use some plugins for Photoshop.

That does not ring a bell. I believe it was macOS 8 or 9.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by jeroenhd »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #122
stego-tech wrote: post #72

Damn impressive if true, but I’ll be honest, I still don’t feel the need to replace my M1 iPad Pro or my M1 Pro Macbook Pro. They’re both more than amazing for my use cases - though if Apple suddenly took gaming seriously, like extending Rosetta to act as a translation layer for Windows games a la Proton, I’d gladly throw down for an M5 Ultra when it’s released.

> though if Apple suddenly took gaming seriously, like extending Rosetta to act as a translation layer for Windows games a la Proton, I’d gladly throw down for an M5 Ultra when it’s released No joke, if I could run my Steam library on my phone, I'd probably buy a new phone every year (and might need to, given what the thermals and rapid charge/discharge cycles would do to battery longevity). But Apple's current strat…

There have been credible rumors that Valve is experimenting with an ARM-based SteamOS for the next Steam Deck which would bring quite a lot of games to mobile.

You can already do this with tools like Winlator of course, but Valve's performance patches would probably make the whole process a lot easier to get working easily.

Any such feature would come to Apple hardware last because of Apple's arbitrary software limitations (maybe it'll work in the EU?), of course, but once Proton goes full ARM, it's only a matter of time.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by Xenoamorphous »

pmontra wrote: post #343
biinjo wrote: post #336

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But it burns a hole in your lap while doing so probably.

Most laptops sit on a desk and never see a lap, even Macs. Benchmarking how long people could sit with a laptop on their lap while running Geekbench could be an interesting metric though.

I can't even remember PCs now (been 10+ years on Macs) but heat is still an issue (especially in summer in hot climates) if the thing is going to throttle.
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