Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

Post by lostlogin » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 5:16 PM UTC

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The Walgreens pharmacist scolded my 35 year old girlfriend for getting it, saying that it was useless at her age. She insisted and he reluctantly administered the first dose (and later got the rest at another location). He even questioned her motives for getting it once she was in the room. I was appalled by the whole interaction. Maybe I could have understood if I had said she was my wife. But it is still stupid to…

Gotta love the logic of telling adults not to get the vaccine because its probably too late and you're already infected, while also telling parents not to give it to their kids because it's only for "prostitutes and promiscuous gay men" (per RFK)

Post by NiloCK » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:09 PM UTC

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In Denmark its not recommended for women over a certain age. So please don’t get it regardless of age. Its not really considered effective for women who have been sexually active for some time. Which is why its only recommended for girls, not women. https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/boernevaccination/vaccinati... . Tldr; Dont rush to get a vaccine that is probably not effective for you. Make an appointment with your d…

Even if there's a small chance that it would make a difference, wouldn't it be worth it if you have the money and you feel like it's your duty to protect others ? At worst, it's useless and you have contributed to make a vaccine more profitable (which, IIUC is a problem for vaccines ?)

Post by ranma42 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 7:19 PM UTC

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This is mostly guesswork but I think you need to get the vaccine before you catch it and lots of people have it as they get older. If you have a limited supply the greater bang per buck would be to start with the young people who almost certainly haven't caught it yet and then work your way up.

It's less that and more "we just haven't tested it in older populations yet". Sure you are more likely to have it the older you are but even then you are unlikely to have all the strains. The vaccine covers like 9 or 10 different strains so it can protect you from the other strains even if you already have one of them. It's generally only when you get into the 60s and up that the justification for not recommending th…

Post by antonvs » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 8:26 PM UTC

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Which vaccines that are widely used today do you believe are unsafe? And why do you believe they’re unsafe? > “anti-vax" is a term used to dismiss [dissent] No, it’s a term used to dismiss people who keep bringing up the same arguments that have been refuted over and over.

All the brand new vaccines with no sufficient testing can be considered unsafe. I like vaccines in general (I am European, we have lots of free and mandatory vaccines as kids), but I don't like to be a test subject for brand new ones. Yes, someone needs to test new vaccines to gather data about safety, but some people are more risk adverse. I am a "take it later" guy.

Post by gblargg » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 8:56 PM UTC

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Even if there's a small chance that it would make a difference, wouldn't it be worth it if you have the money and you feel like it's your duty to protect others ? At worst, it's useless and you have contributed to make a vaccine more profitable (which, IIUC is a problem for vaccines ?)

At worst, it's harmful! From top of my layperson head: bruised insertion sites, tainted needles, tainted vaccine supply, customer capacity crowding for the pharmacy, squeezing supply capacity for actual target demographics, etc etc etc. Things have tradeoffs, even if they are subtle. Relentless follow-through on marginal protocols should generally be treated with suspicion. Stranger danger advocates brush off the cri…