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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by bombcar »

6LLvveMx2koXfwn wrote: post #105
bhickey wrote: post #32

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The corruption is simply incredible. About fifteen years ago I found myself in Kathmandu after getting altitude sickness. The team's fixer brought me to lunch with some government officials. The topic of discussion? How to steal from a hydroelectric project. One of his guests outright asked, "should we be talking about this in front of this guy?" The fixer shrugged it off saying "he's a Westerner, what is he going to…

re corruption: I was flying from Kathmandu to Bangkok in 2000 and I couldn't book a ticket on the plane until the day it flew as 'half the plane' was reserved for 'Government Officials' 'just in case'. Amusingly they were all on one side of the plane too, the side that can see Mount Everest during the flight.

Honestly that’s kind of polite in a strange way.

They could have just bumped anyone when they needed a ticket.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by [deleted] »

angelgonzales wrote: post #316
cedws wrote: post #22

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I’m not aware of a single nation where the ratchet is loosening. It appears freedom is being eroded everywhere. The most disheartening thing is that nothing works to stop it. There are countries where millions of people have protested, but in time the protests always fizzle or are stamped out, and things continue on the same trajectory.

It might not be on the national level, but we’re fighting over here in California to maintain/take back our gun rights. A court recently ruled that the state cannot require a background check for ammunition, we also got rid of the one gun a month rule recently as well. This progress gives me hope we still have so much more work to do re. privacy, property rights and freedom of speech!

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by marcosdumay »

MangoToupe wrote: post #354
marcosdumay wrote: post #351

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> It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there. Yes. That's as reasonable as the people there protesting their own government.

Did you read the next sentence?

I'm not disagreeing.

Corporations closing down there and moving away is completely reasonable. People protesting is completely reasonable.

The government forcing the corporations out is as reasonable as the people there say it is... so not at all.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by devsda »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #217
snapcaster wrote: post #180

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I don't like comments like this, because while you're right that many people think everything happening everywhere is the CIA. The CIA (and US gov) _has_ been involved in an absurd amount of regime changes (that we know about). CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

> CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand Without evidence, yes, it should be. Just as it should be dismissed, if proposed without evidence, that this was the product of Indian, Chinese or Iranian meddling. Particularly when we have credible evidence going the other way of legitimate reasons a population would flip out.

US with its control of social media etc can push a narrative to instigate population of friendly or unfriendly countries. There's no way to know say for sure whether the protests were organic or inorganic.

Every country has problems that atleast look worthy of an uprising. CIA has both the means and the track record of messing with countries, so its natural to be suspicious.

If Russia had control of social media narrative in US and wanted to cause trouble, nobody would know for sure if an uprising was due to their meddling or due to current political climate.

Lack of evidence doesn't prove or disprove anything.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by nirava »

njsubedi wrote: post #304

The count is 19. And it's mostly students, few of who were still in their school uniform. Many head injuries, and death by bullets on the head. This is the darkest day in Nepal! Edit: And the protest was against corrupt politicians, not social media ban.

The count's gone up. I didn't go to the protest but the friends that went say they're probably under-counting considering how many shots were fired right in front of them.

PS fancy seeing you here!

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by keybored »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #352
factorialboy wrote: post #89

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Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

Classic removal of agency from real revolutions to avoid thinking critically about the real problems a country has, and instead blame a foreign boogeyman. A favorite tactic of authoritarian regimes and the tankies that love them.

Bah, I assumed from that comment that China or India were the ones who were coloring/interfering.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by lordhumphrey »

secondcoming wrote: post #262
pjmlp wrote: post #54

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As first generation out of Salazar's dictorship, our country now having a right majority with a Nazi party in the mix, makes me really sad. How short the memory of folks can be, especially with my parents and grand parents generations still around, but apparently their memories and experiences now fall into death hears. Maybe when they start getting visits from the eventually new state protection police, they will un…

> fall into death hears Maybe I'm missing a pun somewhere, but the phrase is 'fall onto deaf ears'!

I think you may be being downvoted for the exclamation mark, which I also found a tad over the top, although I didn't downvote you.

Particularly when the mistake you're correcting was so reasonable and charming. It's an excellent example of an "eggcorn".

If you haven't heard of eggcorns, fear not: the word "eggcorn" is itself an autology, i.e., a word that is an example of the phenomenon it describes. So if you remember the word, "eggcorn", you should be able to remember the concept. An eggcorn is a type of malapropism, but one that could plausibly fit the context of the misheard original word or phrase.

So, for example, "eggcorn" could plausibly have been the word for the object which we actually call an "acorn".

Similarly, when I read "into death hears", I immediately knew what the writer meant, and had a little chuckle to myself thinking about how it actually made total sense. So perhaps we could point out to them nicely the lovely eggcorn they were using, rather than text-shouting.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by koonsolo »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #166
koonsolo wrote: post #132

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Hey, Belgian here. Our government cannot just de-bank, de-pension or de- anything else you are suggesting, and definitely not by the "crime" of protesting (what a ridiculous statement!) We protest here too by the way, this weekend about 100k in Brussels. That you make these claims is just plain up ridiculous.

Are you aware that the world(and Europe for that matter) is much larger than Belgium, with way different laws on what the state can do to you? For example in Canada they de-banked the truckers, in Germany they de-pensioned a retiree who was planning to bring back the Kaiser. So yeah, it happens, you're just ignorant from your bubble.

You were talking about "people in the West". Belgians are people in the west, and we don't comply to your statements.

Secondly, I don't believe a word you say about Germany. Source please.

Don't generalize what happened once in Canada to the whole "Western world" and all kinds of de-.... And as far as I remember, those truckers were protesting. So they certainly didn't comply to your description of being indoctrinated to trust their government.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by Eldt »

nomdep wrote: post #268
mandeepj wrote: post #143

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Quite similar corruption is happening here in America! Donald trump made over $3.8B since getting into office this year, while tanking farming, jobs market, and foreign relations.

He made that with the business he already had and some legal cryptocurrency investment based on capitalizing his fame. How on earth you call that "corruption"? Are you even aware of what the word means?

A president using his status in government to influence private business deals certainly feels like corruption

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by keybored »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #217
snapcaster wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like comments like this, because while you're right that many people think everything happening everywhere is the CIA. The CIA (and US gov) _has_ been involved in an absurd amount of regime changes (that we know about). CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

> CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand Without evidence, yes, it should be. Just as it should be dismissed, if proposed without evidence, that this was the product of Indian, Chinese or Iranian meddling. Particularly when we have credible evidence going the other way of legitimate reasons a population would flip out.

How even-handed and fair.

These entities are in the business—by their very nature—to lie and hide their activities as much as possible.[1] To dismiss speculation out-of-hand because it has no evidence is ludicrous.

[1] Not only that but to actively push counter-narratives.

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