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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by ceroxylon »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #334
superposeur wrote: post #308

Everyone seems to be unsurprised by this move, but I’m genuinely shocked. What a shoot your own foot business decision. Google, evil though it be, doesn’t post the text of your gmails in its search results because who would consider using Gmail after that? This is the llm equivalent. Am I missing something?

> Am I missing something? I think you do: According to the article https://www.perplexity.ai/page/anthropic-reverses-privacy-st... "Enterprise and educational customers will continue operating under their existing privacy protections, as the policy changes specifically exclude Claude for Work and Claude for Education services. These commercial accounts remain governed by separate contractual agreements that maintain…

> With this new decision, Anthropic makes this "free-riding" less attractive

Certainly not for any users like you and me, it takes two seconds and three clicks to review the new terms and decline chat training. This is more like Anthropic getting easy training from people who are unaware or don't care.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by jmward01 »

I just opted out. And then canceled my plan. The 5 year retention isn't part of the opt out and represents way too juicy of a target for them. Some time in the next 5 years another TOS change will happen, and another and another and eventually there won't be an opt out or I won't realize it and accidentally click yes. Privacy first. Period. Pay me to opt in and I may consider it.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by adastra22 »

aosaigh wrote: post #122

Does this include any code base you are running Claude Code with (where parts of code are sent as part of the context)? I'm not hugely clear on how my private codebase is exposed to Claude in the first place when using Claude Code.

Yes, your code is part of the chat context. You cannot use Claude code without sharing your repo with them.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by franga2000 »

superposeur wrote: post #341
KoolKat23 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This data is useful for reinforcement learning. All the others do it. And most importantly, you can just opt-out.

Ok, to be clear, let’s say I’m dumb and accidentally go with the default (I get the color of the opt out button wrong or something). As if there’s a “publish my private emails to the internet” default-on button in email. Then, I use it to edit a rec letter for student X, with my signature Y. (Yes I know this is dumb and I try changing names when editing but am sure some actual names may slip through.) A few months la…

You're severely overestimating the ability of the model to recall a single mostly uninteresting item from it's billions of input documents.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by j4hdufd8 »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

> But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever want to deny them their data.

What? I think you're exactly the kind of person that companies pay attention to, and why they pull moves like this

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by disconcision »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #26
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

"five year retention". If it's in a model once, it's there forever.

this is somewhat true but i'm not sure how load bearing it is. for one, i think it's going to be a while until 'we asked the model what bob said' is as admissible as the result of a database query

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by blipmusic »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

My life does in fact have priorities above ”LLMs should work a bit better”.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by danans »

troad wrote: post #348
benterix wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not nitpicking, this is a sane reaction to someone modifying the meaning of words on the fly.

The original meaning of sane is "physically healthy". Its usual modern meaning is "mentally healthy". You're using it to mean "reasonable". At which exact point is language prohibited from evolving, and why it super coincidentally the exact years you learnt it?

> At which exact point is language prohibited from evolving

Never?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by j4hdufd8 »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

Are you okay getting ads for shit holistic medication because you had a mental health conversation with AI?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Razengan »

I wanted to try it out so I bought a Pro subscription. No way to purchase through iOS so I had to enter my card number. I cancelled renewal and tried to remove my payment method as per usual practice, but I couldn't. Tried to find a way to get support but the send button on their chatbot box was disabled for me (on Safari if that matters). Regardless of the quality of the AI, that experience ticked me off enough to file a "F you" chargeback with my bank.
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