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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by nine_k »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #357
nine_k wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> can't migrate stars/icons for emails. (1) Create s label for starred emails, eg "Star-struck". A Unicode star would do if you like it literal. (2) In gmail, search for "is:starred", mark all on the page, then "mark all matching emails". (3) Drop the "Star-struck" tag on them. Now you can migrate it as a normal tag.

Thanks, but I am using multiple variants of the star icons to indicate various states. I know I can manually label and migrate things, it's just not practical for me.

Does "has:red-star" work for you? Works for me, even in the Android version that can't display starts of different colors.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by josephg »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #309
josephg wrote: post #239

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First, it’s not been established that they do have that security hole. Someone upthread said the email address they used during a fastmail trial was no longer available when they tried to sign up later because they didn’t want to give out the address again. Second, and I don’t know how much weight this carries - but I personally know some of the people on the Fastmail team. They’re some of the most thoughtful, steady…

You can find several discussions of this practice online, including people commenting that they receive email for previous holders of those ids. The commenter above may have never deleted the alias to release it for reuse. Reusing email addresses is pretty universally considered terrible practice. So you may want to discuss it with your friends there.

I will. But for everyone on this site, the real answer is to own your own domain and use that. Then your email service is just a commodity.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by UnhappyMeaning »

nickserv wrote: post #305
coro_1 wrote: post #300

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I love Proton but the idea of subscribing and committing to renew annually is a turn off. There's probably be a huge market behind the psychology of this. They should offer a lifetime option for the core service and monetize the add-ons and new features.

That's exactly the reason why so many people prefer giving up their data, their privacy, their freedom. Personally I'm happy to pay proton a few bucks a month to not have to give up those things. I'm not criticizing those that do, just that given my financial situation the trade off is simply not worth it.

Yea I’m in a position where I can’t splurge on things at the moment and basically I would be simply paying for email filters since Proton’s free tier only lets you create one.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by soraminazuki »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #250
soraminazuki wrote: post #208

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That's incredibly dishonest reasoning. Are you seriously telling me that unless people have a solution for fixing DNS, commercial email should be free to hand out used email addresses? Seriously?

Sure. Now that you've said what you wanted to say about how dishonest the question is, would you like to either answer it or explain why the analogy fails to hold?

And now shadowbanned accounts are hurling insults [1]? Come on.

If it wasn't clear enough when you made your fallacious argument, and even after I called it out twice, issues with domain name registration has no bearing on the choice of commercial email providers handing out previously used addresses to anyone who asks. They can stop doing that today without having to break the internet for an unrelated issue or go through internet standards committees to do so.

In addition, email addresses handed out by commercial email providers are highly personal as opposed to your typical domain names. End users, who are oblivious to how any of this works, risk being victims of identity theft by having their previous address taken. Scammers can impersonate as grandchildren and steal from the elderly. They can take over online accounts that's tied to that email address. There are grave consequences to these kind of decisions.

This is obvious stuff to anyone who has an idea of what a domain name is. But I understand, you're "just asking questions."

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44998990

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by mbrochh »

TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

Great effort! For photos I can highly recommend Ente. Fully E2E encrypted. Works on all systems, syncs reliably, has great on-device AI stuff to build a vector database of your images, has very good UI/UX and is reasonably priced. Once I had all my 20k+ photos uploaded into Ente, I was finally able to delete all my photos from iCloud and cancel my iCloud subscription.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by TranquilMarmot »

TranquilMarmot wrote: post #341
immibis wrote: post #106

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I don't think long term renewals exist for premium domains. You probably shouldn't use a premium domain unless you really need one. It's just a money grab by registrars and registries.

Great point. I use the premium domain because it's fun, but it does feel like a money grab. I wonder if premium domains will ever become "un-premium".

Also, just checked on Squarespace and I am able to add up to 9 more years of owning the premium domain at the moment. Squarespace seems like a stable enough company to trust for 9 years - but then I worry that I would become complacent, forget about it, and then let it lapse. 9 years is a LONG time!

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by sumuyuda »

matteocontrini wrote: post #271
dsissitka wrote: post #9

Something to be aware of if you're considering mailbox.org: https://userforum-en.mailbox.org/topic/anti-spoofing-for-cus...

Another thing is that they appear to have some spam scanning on outbound emails and when they detect something suspicious they simply drop the email silently, and nobody will ever know about it.

You can turn this off in the settings and the spam will go in a Junk folder.

https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/e-mail-article/customizing...

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by matteocontrini »

sumuyuda wrote: post #367
matteocontrini wrote: post #271

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Another thing is that they appear to have some spam scanning on outbound emails and when they detect something suspicious they simply drop the email silently, and nobody will ever know about it.

You can turn this off in the settings and the spam will go in a Junk folder. https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/e-mail-article/customizing...

I'm referring to outbound email being silently dropped, not inbound email being rejected or put into Junk.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by josephb »

bsder wrote: post #199
rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Is there a way to use Fastmail such that you run a receive email server but use Fastmail to send? I don't mind running an email server for receive. I despise all the hoops you have to jump through for send deliverability.

If you plan on running your own inbound email, you would be better using something like smtp2go, dnsexit or others for your outbound.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by josephb »

rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Love the keyboard shortcuts in the web interface, killer feature. Also the rules management and folder management is beyond what a lot of other similar providers offer.
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