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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by vel0city »

Boogie_Man wrote: post #183
legitster wrote: post #38

Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available. (For their national broadcasts at least - local ... can be hit or miss). In particular, their kids programming is the absolute best. Nothing flashy or exciting, but it's laser focused on education and has zero agenda. And the PBS kids apps are one of the…

I don't want to be "that guy", but I often find myself as the "intolerable lib" in some situations and the "intolerable con" in others, so here we go: There is a degree of quasi-political messaging in PBS children's shows. I can say this because I've watched more hours than I'd like of several of them, but I'd like to focus on on Molly Of Denali. It's a good children's show about an inuit girl who lives in Alaska and…

> such as it being deeply upsetting and disrespectful for a "white" teacher to call a native child "T", because she had trouble pronouncing his native name.

Imagine not finding it disrespectful for your teacher to just completely ignore and disrespect your heritage and you're expected to just accept it and be totally OK with it.

IMO kids should be taught to be proud of their names. Apparently, that's a political stance.

I have many coworkers who I have trouble saying their names. I try as best as I can to say their names and be as respectful as possible. I wouldn't just go "I can't say your name, so you're just T now."

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by Boogie_Man »

legitster wrote: post #338
Boogie_Man wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be missing what you mean, but I tried to explain as best as I could how I would understand these things to be "related to "politics" ". Offensiveness of difficultly in pronouncing native Alaskan name - I believe this would be grouped under the umbrella of something like "linguistic imperialism" by people of particular political bents, which is an issue that at least heavily relates to politics. Land acknowled…

None of these things are inherently political unless you interpret them to be. They have several shows that depict interracial marriages, while some people might try to take this as a political statement, most of us would not see it that way. In a similar vein, I don't see how pronouncing names correctly could be a political issue.

I agree with you in that the question of something being "political" is inherently related to the context, and that some things some people might find political (like the importance of voting from my original comment) are not "political enough" to be something which shouldn't be in a children's show.

I would also agree with you that pronouncing names generally is not (and largely probably should not be) a political topic, but that it necessarily is in this context because of it being included in a show about native Alaskans. If the teacher were inuit, or the student also white, or it was presented a simple misunderstanding along the lines of "can I call you T" "No please don't" "okay sorry I'll do my best" it would not be "political". Because it's in this show in this context and explicitly connected to previous abuses of native people being made to use "white names", my contention is that the creators of the show intend for it to be political .

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by atonse »

monero-xmr wrote: post #80
xnx wrote: post #24

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> PBS only receives about 15% of its funds from federal funding I'm a big fan of PBS, but I wonder if this common stat is misleading. Don't a huge portion of PBS funds come from member stations, which get a portion of their funds from federal funding?

Yes it is so obviously misleading and incorrect that only the mainstream media could have perpetuated this unquestioned for decades. The federal money goes to member stations which then hands it right over to NPR to pay for programming, I believe it’s $500 per hour. It’s 1 layer of indirection but no one seemed to mention this in all of the reporting

My link is from PBS's donation page. Are you saying they're misleading people about their own funds?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by sugarpimpdorsey »

vel0city wrote: post #319
tptacek wrote: post #296

This is a giant thread full of people lamenting the demise of public broadcasting so it seems like someone should write the comment that points out that CPB doesn't do PBS programming. They don't develop content. They're a grantmaking organization that manages the distribution of the congressional PBS appropriation. The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately, and…

> and then purchased by local PBS stations If those stations go off the air, who is buying that content? It's like arguing it doesn't matter if the stream dries up the plants don't get water from the stream, the plants get the water from the ground. Where did that water in the ground come from? The stream! You're right, these shows aren't going off the air tomorrow. But this does affect the funding for the shows prod…

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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by lazyeye »

thisisit wrote: post #311
smithkl42 wrote: post #76

> Public media has been one of the most trusted institutions in American life, providing educational opportunity, emergency alerts, civil discourse, and cultural connection to every corner of the country,” Harrison said. If that was true, losing the CPB would be a travesty. But as a loyal NPR listener for decades, I've found their stuff lately to be unlistenable. It's Fox, but for the Left, and with a bit more of an…

I am always confused by this narrative. People extolling the virtues of old media organization as if those people weren't toeing the government line and were cold robots with no bias. It is the rise of media org like Fox news where these kinds of comments have started surfacing. Because for Fox news is more commentary than facts. And then the narrative trick from Fox and other conservative media outlets have constant…

And you are clearly regurgitating left-wing talking points etc.....

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by hinkley »

buildmonkey wrote: post #53

Must see TV when I was little was Mr. Roger's Neighborhood and Sesame Street. As I grew and my interest in what makes the natural world work became more sophisticated, Nova was something I watched regularly. Every one of these programs was supported by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. I am saddened by this loss.

This Old House taught me mortal fear of water damage, and The Woodwright’s Shop taught me terrible, terrible puns. And some woodworking skills. Roy, you absolute legend.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by CGMthrowaway »

legitster wrote: post #316
CGMthrowaway wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The show had six guests on- 2 left, 1 right, 2 neutral(?) and 1 CIA deep state mouthpiece. The show gave mostly balanced coverage of every issue covered, but declined to dig into the Epstein issue beyond "Trump+Epstein", gave the deep-stater seven minutes to defend the CIA without meaningfully pressing into any of the other questions raised by the latest declassifications (such as HRC & DNC involvement in orchestrati…

> such as HRC & DNC involvement in orchestrating Russiagate I'm not trying to be dismissive of your viewpoint, but why should anyone bother speaking to this? Absolutely nothing new was divulged. It's not the media's responsibility to give airtime over every government press release.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/declassified_d...

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by unleaded »

another_twist wrote: post #158
thrownawaysz wrote: post #68

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>Just at what BBC is able to do in the UK. This is funny because BBC is a prime example of being a propaganda channel for the government of the day. And that's not new at all just look back at the coverage of the Troubles or the miners strikes in the 70s-80s. Yes it's not on the level of CGTN or Russia Today but BBC is not neutral at all https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-biased-is-the-...

To quote David Mitchell - "news is a very small of the BBC...BBC is an organization that is loved around the world for its drama and stories and not just the ruddy news". How is it not neutral ? I follow some of the news. They've criticized both Conservative and Labour governments. Of course there are problems like the whole Martin Bashir thing but recently I've seen the BBC be more self-critical than other private T…

>They've criticized both Conservative and Labour governments

this is really the main problem with the bbc. for example one week they publish a story talking about something horrible israel has done then the next they publish another seemingly taking their side on something. it just ends up annoying and confusing both sides instead of one

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by bpt3 »

vel0city wrote: post #114
tptacek wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Public television and public radio isn't going anywhere, at least not anywhere any of the rest of linear media isn't already going.

Public television and public radio stations are literally being shut down, now, as per the topic article. Any station meaningfully relying on CPB is done.

The people who voted for the politicians implementing this generally live in those areas, so I think everyone is getting what they wanted on the whole?

To be clear, I am not in favor of these cuts, but nothing is preventing state, local or private contributions from keeping these stations on the air.

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