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Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by visarga »

ninjin wrote: post #324
foxglacier wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably disappointed that his classical approach to NLP was never capable enough to attract any such government involvement.

As someone having worked in natural language processing for nearly twenty years, I understand where you are coming from with this jab at Chomsky, but it is ultimately a misrepresentation of his work and position. Chomsky has to the best of my knowledge never showed any interest in building intelligent machines as he does not view this as a science. Here is a fairly recent interview (2023) with him where he outlines h…

Chomsky's innate grammar misses the larger process - is it not more likely that languages that can't be learned by babies don't survive? Learnability might be the outcome of language evolution. The brain did not have time to change so much since the dawn of our species.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by bagels »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

This was written to favor Musk.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by miohtama »

terminalshort wrote: post #213
Spivak wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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All LLMs must be forced into their views. All models are fed a biased training set. The bias may be different, but it's there just the same and it has no relation to whether or not the makers of the model intended to bias it. Even if the training set were completely unfiltered and consisted of all available text in the world it would be biased because most of that text has no relation to objective reality. The concep…

The best example is black vikings and other historical characters of Gemini. A bias everyone could see with their own eyes.

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Post by UmGuys »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

There will be several executive orders dictating chatbot truths. The first order will be that Trump won the 2020 election, the others will be a series of other North Korea-esque nonsense MAGA loves. America the excellent!

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by omcnoe »

breakingcups wrote: post #326
anonyonoor wrote: post #294

I've seen several European initiatives similar to this before, and the same question is always asked: what does this actually do? People (at least on HN) seem to be in agreement the Europe is too regulatory and bureaucratic, so it feels fair to question the practicality of any American initiatives, as we do for European ones. What does this document practically enact today? Is there any actual money allocated? Deregu…

I, for one, dont't agree with the idea that Europe is too regulatory and bureaucratic. I welcome my rights as a consumer and human being being safeguarded at the cost of a small amount of profit.

Registering a company in Germany: you must visit a notary in person with your incorporation documents, and sit there while the notary reads aloud your incorporation to you. This is to "ensure that you fully understand the contract" even as a foreigner who doesn't speak corporate-legalese-German. Minimum capital deposit of €25,000.

Registering a company in US (Delaware) can be achieved in as little as 1 hour.

Getting married in Germany, particularly between a German and a foreigner, is anything from a 6 month to 2 year process, involving significant expenses, notarization/translation of documents. Some documents expire after 6 months, so if the government bureaucrats are too slow you need to get new copies, translated again, notarized again, and try to re-submit.

This isn't protecting human rights, it's supporting a class of bureaucrats/notaries/translators/clerks and making life more difficult for ordinary people. It's also a form of light racism that targets foreigners/migrants by imposing more difficult bureaucratic requirements and costs on them compared to by birth citizens.

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Post by saubeidl »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

Zizek would have a field day with this.

> I already am eating from the trashcan all the time. The name of this trashcan is ideology. The material force of ideology - makes me not see what I'm effectively eating. It's not only our reality which enslaves us. The tragedy of our predicament - when we are within ideology, is that - when we think that we escape it into our dreams - at that point we are within ideology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by saubeidl »

zmgsabst wrote: post #292
jakelazaroff wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that "anti-woke" or whatever is not balanced. We've constructed statistical models based on enormous corpora of English text, and those models keep telling us that there is not really a statistical difference between whatever Elon Musk is trying to create and MechaHitler! I'm not saying this is conclusive evidence, but I am saying it's our best inference from the data we have so far.

Or that rhetoric like yours is common, so LLMs conflate unrelated ideas — such as opposition to neo-Marxist philosophy and Nazism.

Please define "neo-Marxist philosophy".

As an actual Marxist, I would love to hear of this strain of philosophy.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by saubeidl »

zmgsabst wrote: post #359
timdev2 wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't strident opposition to "neo-Marxist philosophy" actually highly correlated with weird/reactionary ethno-nationalism?

No, eg, liberal capitalist Americans oppose Marxism — and the adoption of neo-Marxist ideas has collapsed movie and game sales because their ideology is widely unpopular. That’s a trope by Marxists to attempt to normalize alt-left ideology by accusing anyone who objects of being Nazis; a trope that’s become tired in the US and minimizes the true radical nature of the Nazi regime.

Which movies and games call for shared ownership of the means of production?

I have a suspicion you don't really know what Marxism is about, but like using it because it sounds scary to you.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by torginus »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

I heard the phrase: If you want the system to be fair, you have to build the system with the assumption your enemies will be running it.

Let's see how that shakes out in this particular case.

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