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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The Samsung S10e was probably peak Android. Small, high-end, SD card and 3.5mm jack. There are some decent small Android phones, if you're willing to buy non-mainstream brands. Take a look at: https://www.reddit.com/r/smallphones/

Asus ZF10 is a more recent specimen. And it's more "peak" IMO. No bloatware, DC dimming, rugged design which doesn't require a case for everyday use.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I just refuse to accept that the first phablet I ever saw, the Galaxy Note, which covered the person's face and looked absolutely comical in their hands, was smaller than my current, very regular-sized phone.

How big is your phone? If it want for edge to edge screens, I’d have stuck with my iPhone SE longer.

It's a Nothing 2, fairly typical in size. I think the Pro Max is larger.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

I'd say the same goes for the removal of FM Radios from mainstream phones.

FM radio uses the headphone cable as an antenna, so with the move to bluetooth I assume it got squashed for similar reasons. The other aspect is it assumes if you want live radio that you're happy needing an active data connection and allowance, any any local stations have a stream available. One of the things I love about streaming (via RadioDroid, etc) is that you can get a station from anywhere on the planet but sometimes you want something a bit more basic.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The best phone I ever had was a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact. I would still be using it if it wasn't too slow to run modern versions of android. This is one of those things that just makes me feel so out of touch with the rest of the world. Does everyone else have giant pockets and giant hands? Does everyone use their phone with two hands and carry a bag everywhere? Is it just a trend like small phones were a trend before…

Been happy with Sony Xperia 10 series, which is similar width, but taller as tallness really do not annoy me. Also massive battery. Sadly they are going to stop selling those here, so I might just need to go to Samsung next year...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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We are unfortunately a neglected part of the market.

I used to have a Pixel 5. As somebody who uses phones minimally (I had two of them. The first one lasted 2 years before the battery swelled up and I had to dispose of it. Google replaced it for free with another. Then eventually Google Pay stopped being supported on the second, since it was a few years beyond security updates.

After that I found no alternative within the Android ecosystem. I don't want to get into Apple products (despite minimal use, I did have the phone customised so that it was stripped bare in terms of apps and notifications, and had a launcher which I preferred over Google's native design), and every tech blog talking about small phones led back to Pixel 5, or one of the ones just after which was also out of sale and security coverage.

Even though they are sold at profit, I get the feeling phones are viewed by the industry as vehicles. Get one with a big screen into peoples hands, then keep riding on the payments for games, movies, TV and web browsing that follows that. As somebody who never used my phone for any of these things, I'm clearly not important to the market for the one-off payment of a new phone every 5/6 years.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The 13 Mini should still get iOS updates for another couple of years, I think? Certainly iOS 26 appears to be supported.

Through 2028 most likely, possibly longer, based on their OS support history (about 7 years).

The 6s, released 2015, still gets security updates once in a blue moon

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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You’re way too cynical and have let your cynicism cloud history. The first phablets were probably the Galaxy Note line starting in 2011 which was met with some skepticism due to the size of them. These were well before the edge to edge screen days. So you had 5.7 inch screens with a bezel. They were huge but I would routinely see small women pull these things out of their hand bags and press a device that obscured al…

It's amusing how people try an memory hole their negative reaction and pieces written about the Note. People's mocking web pages have disappeared. Arguments based on the size of the human hand completely forgotten. The very notion that a 5.7 inch screen is big an unwieldly is now met with disdain.

When I first saw the ad on tv, my reaction was "Holy moley, wow, who's going to buy that monstrosity?"

And then a few weeks later I bought one. All the guys in my office laughed and said "Wow, look at that huge thing, it's ridiculous". I chuckled and agreed, though I was quietly enjoying the larger screen.

And now everyone's using them.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

The issue is "bigger numbers" marketing. The story for much of smartphone history was the flagship had a bigger screen. But then it hit the practicable limits of what people can pocket/hold-comfortably. If you make a phone with a smaller screen but want to call it "flagship" then you'd better have some good marketing to reverse the perception.

Please note that Samsung flagship S24 is smaller than non-flagship A55 (the same release year)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

I posted a bit too late and didn't see your post first, which more or less is exactly along my thinking.

Modern phones are sold (even at profit) with the intent that there is more payments/ad revenue coming down the line, for movies, TV, games and web browsing/social media. A big screen makes that experience better for people and advertisers. It's a cynical take, but the entire business model is based on building and promoting addiction.

They have no interest in selling phones for utility purposes only, even though that's largely how they advertise the phones, because advertising a 5 hour plus daily screen time isn't sexy at all.

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