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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Post by Atlas667 »

v5v3 wrote: post #147
Atlas667 wrote: post #47

THEY WILL TARGET YOU too if you ever find yourself against western and/or Israeli interests. Capitalist technologies are the surveillance state incarnate. They must study people in order to manufacture consent. Remember democracy is majority rule, when have you ever had true control over your political destiny? You KNOW the answer is never. Democracy =/= trust. Democracy = control.

Many 'democracies' are not democracies, as you can only really vote for one of 2 parties. The system is fully designed to supress smaller parties and independents. Only countries with regular coalition governments can be classed as a actual democracies.

The will of the masses is NEVER enacted. This is what bourgeois capitalism is.

Oh you like phones? Well our phone companies require us to directly or indirectly create proxy wars in this region in order to acquire the raw materials necessary.

This is the democracy of western nations: policy hidden behind capitalist interests that the people engage with through consumption.

Its democracy for the rich not for the millions of us.

That's why they NEED to manufacture consent, in order to get you on board with murder and fabricated poverty in order to have goods and services.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Post by makeitdouble »

brianbest101 wrote: post #32
makeitdouble wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Galaxy Note fiasco Has any smartphone maker succeeded in getting more than a few percent of market share, released more that 2 phones while being immune to that level of fiasco ?

It’s really hard to beat the “it’s a felony to knowingly carry our phones on to an airplane” level of fiasco

Why does this become a competition where we're looking for a winner ?

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Post by subscribed »

grishka wrote: post #8

The "unremovable" part is inaccurate. While you can't completely remove it because it resides on the system partition, you most probably can still disable it with an adb command: adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.package.name This command is very powerful as it works for any app, even those that have "disable" greyed out in the settings. I disabled the Galaxy Store on my S9 this way for example.

It's not trivial for most and will most likely get reenabled after the firmware upgrade.

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Post by beeflet »

lm28469 wrote: post #282
boramalper wrote: post #10

I suspect a strong link between mass surveillance (by corporations for advertising or by states for intelligence purposes) and the very recent targeting of the senior Iranian nuclear scientist and military officers at their homes in Iran. Wherever you are from or whatever side of the conflict you are on, I think we can all agree that it’s never been easier to infer so much about a person from “semi-public” sources su…

If you're a valuable enough target, like these Iranians generals/scientists they just need to find you once and then they can continuously track your movements via satellite. They don't need much precision, just which building to level

this is a totally illogical way of understanding warfare in terms of absolutes. Not every target is worth leveling a building over. It isn't that black and white

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hkt wrote: post #296
AlotOfReading wrote: post #4

Because the link is down: https://web.archive.org/web/20250506145643/https://smex.org/... The article leaves out quite a lot about what AppCloud is, but it's essentially how Samsung monetizes their non-flagship device users and can do things like insert installation advertisements into the notification tray, and silently install apps. Personally, if I found this on my device it'd be the final straw to grit my teeth a…

No need to ditch Android. Fairphone exists: https://fairphone.com Their stock android is fine. If you want more privacy, installing e/OS/ is trivial. It blows my mind that anyone is concluding Samsung stuff is worth buying under any circumstances.

Fairphone has astonishingly bad upgrades and patches policy. Very late, very delayed, not all of them.

Sure, better than, say, Sony (and as an ex-Sony user I kind of know what I'm talking about), but far from calling it good.

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Post by bawolff »

Henchman21 wrote: post #344
mousethatroared wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Just which building to level" What's "just" a war crime amongst friends?

When there is no one willing to prosecute it, is it still a crime?

Nothing stopping Iran from joining the ICC. Except that the investigations would go both ways.

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Post by subscribed »

rs186 wrote: post #316
hkt wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to ditch Android. Fairphone exists: https://fairphone.com Their stock android is fine. If you want more privacy, installing e/OS/ is trivial. It blows my mind that anyone is concluding Samsung stuff is worth buying under any circumstances.

What about people who are not in Europe? And for US carriers, you are basically locked out of Wi-Fi calling if you are not using one of the whitelisted devices.

GrapheneOS if you can live without Google Wallet and hardened Google Pixel (the only secure Android device family to date).

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Post by bawolff »

mousethatroared wrote: post #318
lm28469 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a valuable enough target, like these Iranians generals/scientists they just need to find you once and then they can continuously track your movements via satellite. They don't need much precision, just which building to level

"Just which building to level" What's "just" a war crime amongst friends?

Some of the footage coming out of Iran of the aftermath of these assinations have shown specific rooms in buildings targeted, leaving the rest of the building in-tact. For a high value military target like chief of the armed forces, it seems unlikely that would be a warcrime as the civilian casualities would be low compared to the military advantage of the target.

[The nuclear scientists on the other hand are much more questionable because its pretty unclear if they are legal targets at all]

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Post by fpoling »

kragen wrote: post #251
boramalper wrote: post #10

I suspect a strong link between mass surveillance (by corporations for advertising or by states for intelligence purposes) and the very recent targeting of the senior Iranian nuclear scientist and military officers at their homes in Iran. Wherever you are from or whatever side of the conflict you are on, I think we can all agree that it’s never been easier to infer so much about a person from “semi-public” sources su…

The truth is far outside the Overton window. Yes, privacy is a question of civil defense in the drone age. But the existing crop of states will never acknowledge that; their structure and institutions presume precisely the kind of mass databases of PII that create this vulnerability, as well as institutional transparency for public accountability. This makes them structurally vulnerable to insurgencies that expropria…

This has been going on in Russia on massive scale. For bribes officials sells anything including highly sensitive databases. Those were used to uncover various Kremlin-run assassins targeting oppositions. Then Ukrainian special services used those to target high-ranking Russian military officers. Russia tried to crack down on that but it just increased the database price tag.

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Post by dragonelite »

Digital28 wrote: post #88
FilosofumRex wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all of Iran's cell network system was originally installed by S. Korean firms. They've changed some to Chinese brands, but apparently the compromised S. Korean brands are still around.

Changing from SK to CN is a trade from intentional vulnerability to unintentional vulnerability. I’ve yet to see a secure piece of software come out of China in my 30+ years of coding.

Better to swallow the poison that doesn't kill you(for now) than to swallow the one that is intended to kill you.
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