xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

Post by brookst » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:06 AM UTC

lolinder wrote: post #351

mquander wrote: post #342

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That's just not true. If Telegram wanted it a small amount, and xAI wanted it a large amount, it would be normal for Telegram to negotiate to get paid for doing it.

This isn't quite the framing I'd use—the key thing that would make it make sense for the deal to go this way is if there's competition bidding for the slot. Say OpenAI also wants in and was willing to pay for it. Absent competition for the slot and assuming that Telegram actually wanted the deal, we'd expect to see at most a no-cost exchange. There's no reason for Grok to pay this much for the deal unless either Tele…

Post by andrekandre » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:24 AM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #281

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It's absolutely wild and scary watching how much money is being spent on pushing AI down the unwilling public's throats. Nobody wants this. Yet we're hiring expensive AI researchers and developers, buying datacenters full of GPUs, and now paying "partner" companies, to deliver this thing that nobody is asking for. What in the world is going on here? What am I not understanding?

What's not to understand? Enormous amounts of money have accrued to a tiny proportion of humanity in the past 30 or so years. There is no way there wouldn't be tons of waste when spending decisions are made by so few people. Now add in the fact that these decision makers are often openly avaricious egomaniacs who don't even make symbolic efforts help the poor and vulnerable, that narrows the scope of their spending t…

  > Enormous amounts of money have accrued to a tiny proportion of humanity in the past 30 or so years. There is no way there wouldn't be tons of waste when spending decisions are made by so few people.

Post by andrekandre » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:28 AM UTC

babypuncher wrote: post #97

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

The corporate world is overrun with executives designing products that look like solutions to other executives but that don't solve any problems problems people in the real world actually have. It is funny seing xAI, the trash-tier AI company, integrate with Telegram, the trash-tier messaging service.

  > products that look like solutions to other executives but that don't solve any problems problems people in the real world

Post by qingcharles » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:43 AM UTC

rvnx wrote: post #53

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It’s not X or Elon musk that you have to trust with regards to the privacy of your telegram conversations.

Yes it's some rich Russian dude trading with Elmo.

Post by jedberg » Thu, May 29, 2025, 1:05 AM UTC

umbra07 wrote: post #283

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Well the side effect of everyone playing nice with Putin is that he's most likely a multi-billionaire, possibly even in the top 10 richest in the world. It's billionaires helping billionaires.

There's a massive jump from "multi-billiojare#" to "120 billion" (10th richest).