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Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by Klonoar »

airstrike wrote: post #126
volkk wrote: post #40

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there's basically zero documentation for Iced as it stands. They even wrote that if you're not a great Rust dev, you're going to have a bad time and that all docs are basically "read the code" until their book is written. I'm glad System76 is able to build using Iced, but you need a great manual for a tool to be considered mature and useful. IMO Slint is milestones ahead and better. They've even built out solid exten…

The crate is 100% documented. what specific documentation do you think are lacking? Tutorials? That's for users to write. Calling iced not useful reads like an uninformed take

At some point you will need to realize that the endless people commenting about the lack of documentation is an issue with Iced, and the proverbial head in the sand approach will not help you.

UI frameworks typically need more than just the type of documentation that Rust docs provide. We see this with just about every UI framework around.

Just write some tutorials already.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

dtkav wrote: post #303
xpe wrote: post #278

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Zed and Cursor are very different; I wouldn’t put them in the same bucket myself. I’ve been using the Zed AI assistant panel for a while (manual control over the context window by including files and diagnostics) — will try the new agentic panel soon.

Unfortunately the new agent panel completely nerfs the old workflow. I also love the old version (now called "Text Threads") for its transparency. Even though they brought back text threads, the context is no longer included (or include-able!) as context in the inline assist. That means that you can no longer select code, hit ctrl+enter, and type "use the new code" or whatever. I wish there was a way to just disable…

You can still include Text Threads as context in the inline assist prompt with @thread "name of thread", or using the `+` button. And it should suggest the active text thread for you, so it's one click. Let us know if that isn't working, we wanted to preserve the old workflow (very explicit context curation) for people who enjoyed previous assistant panel.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by askonomm »

sapiogram wrote: post #320
askonomm wrote: post #197

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I mean the last time I saw anyone have a 1440p display was back in the early 2010's, so ... nowadays most people that I know buy 4k 27"/32" displays at minimum, with 5k displays gaining popularity as the price for them goes down. Macbooks for example come with a very high resolution display, and so do most high-end PC laptops, too.

Yes yes, all your friends are rich, good for you.

4k displays are available at just a few hundred bucks these days, I'd hardly call that being rich.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by dimaor »

constantcrying wrote: post #150
jjice wrote: post #45

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I know they started on MacOS and their Linux support is relatively new, so I wonder if that "fastest" label is really only applicable to MacOS currently.

No. It works incredibly well under Linux. Nvidia drivers in particular are terrible on Linux, so what OP is describing is likely some compatibility/version issue.

maybe you right, but it was weird that everything else was working perfect. rendering engines, games, other graphic things...

that is why I commented, since was disappointed a bit

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by Klonoar »

rtfeldman wrote: post #339
intellectronica wrote: post #332

I want to love Zed. The UX is absolutely amazing - it just feels like you're on turbo mode all the time. And the AI is excellent too. I don't know how far it can go, though, without the VSCode ecosystem.

Not to worry! When VS Code launched, it had a tiny ecosystem compared to Atom. When Atom launched, it had a tiny ecosystem compared to Sublime Text. Starting out with a much smaller ecosystem than already-popular alternatives is a totally normal part of the road to success. :)

I would question that logic and offer the following example: Panic released Nova, a very nice editor that included a JS plugin system to make porting extensions easier. It was not originally (but might be now) set up for easy porting of VSCode extensions.

To date I know of barely anyone using it.

VSCode kind of had Atom’s audience to build off of, and other editors don’t always have that runway.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

isaacimagine wrote: post #160

I interned at zed during the summer of 2022, when the editor was pre-alpha. Nathan, Max, Antonio are great guys and build software with care. I'm happy to see the editor receive the success it deserves, because the team has poured so much world-class engineering work into it. I worked with Antonio on prototyping the extensions system[0]. In other words, Antonio got to stress test the pair programming collaboration te…

Isaac, that email that you sent to us (long after your internship ended) when Wasmtime first landed support for the WASM Component model was actually very helpful! We were considering going down the path of embedding V8 and doing JS extensions. I'm really glad we ended up going all in on Wasmtime and components; it's an awesome technology.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by Aeolun »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #270
maxbrunsfeld wrote: post #243

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Yeah, we plan to revisit the collaboration features; it was painful but we decided we needed to pause work on it while we built out some more highly-requested functionality. We still have big plans for improving team collaboration!

Not sure what your budget looks like, but maybe its time to look for a new developer if its feasible? So you don't neglect a feature that's already in production and broken.

> So you don't neglect a feature that's already in production and broken.

A feature that people are paying $0 for?

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by dtkav »

maxbrunsfeld wrote: post #362
dtkav wrote: post #303

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Unfortunately the new agent panel completely nerfs the old workflow. I also love the old version (now called "Text Threads") for its transparency. Even though they brought back text threads, the context is no longer included (or include-able!) as context in the inline assist. That means that you can no longer select code, hit ctrl+enter, and type "use the new code" or whatever. I wish there was a way to just disable…

You can still include Text Threads as context in the inline assist prompt with @thread "name of thread", or using the `+` button. And it should suggest the active text thread for you, so it's one click. Let us know if that isn't working, we wanted to preserve the old workflow (very explicit context curation) for people who enjoyed previous assistant panel.

Thank you Max for preserving my workflow (and for replying on GH)!

It looks like I was 2 days out of date, and updating fixed it for me.

Re: Zed: High-performance AI Code Editor

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Post by bschwindHN »

isaacimagine wrote: post #160

I interned at zed during the summer of 2022, when the editor was pre-alpha. Nathan, Max, Antonio are great guys and build software with care. I'm happy to see the editor receive the success it deserves, because the team has poured so much world-class engineering work into it. I worked with Antonio on prototyping the extensions system[0]. In other words, Antonio got to stress test the pair programming collaboration te…

Hey Isaac! I was intrigued by the way Zed added extensions, and I think it turned out great! I ended up taking that pattern of WASM, WIT, and Rust traits to add interactive hot reloading in a few projects. It feels like it has a strong future in gamedev where you could load and execute untrusted user mods without having all your players getting hacked left and right.

Good luck on finals!

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