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The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Post by bigbacaloa »

potato3732842 wrote: post #259
bigbacaloa wrote: post #104

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These percentages are similar to those that one sees for alcohol consumption or problematic gambling. The business model of the casinos and the drug dealers and the alcohol venders is the same - you need a huge pool of unproblematic recreational users to find the problematic users who generate the bulk of your profits. The same model works for video games and social media.

I really hate this projecting of the software gaming industry's behavior back into the "original" vices. The casino, liquor store and drug dealer all make the same margin regardless of who they're selling to. If anything the problem users are more likely to cause problems for them so they'd rather make the money on casual users and scale. Having your whole operation be basically a wash except for all the money from a…

While it may be true that margins are independent of the buyer at a given scale, margins certainly do depend on scale. If 15% of the population is buying 75% of the alcohol (these are not ridiculous numbers), cutting that 15% out would put many alcohol producers (in particular those who sell cheap) out of business.

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Post by johnisgood »

noduerme wrote: post #291
johnisgood wrote: post #284

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I am mostly just a listener, and at times a mediator. It worked well for me in cases where I was liked by most. Sadly it does not work well even when it comes to family, they talk shit about me behind my back to people and so forth. > What I find respectable is someone who tells you honestly what they think Agreed.

I think. Hear me out. To be a good mediator is also to be brutally honest with everyone. And your takeaway isn't them liking you. If either side liked you, you'd be a shit mediator. lol The good news is they'll respect you for something they can't get anywhere else.

I try to keep quiet when they trashtalk each other. :D

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Post by radlad »

rightbyte wrote: post #332
thoroughburro wrote: post #279

They were provided with a quite plausible motivation. What is the plausible motivation in your scenario?

The clique on pub B might talk down on the clique on pub A without any motivation but not B. Someone that doesn't notice that he is "hated" might also be susceptible to such low key social manipulation to be made believe he is hated. But ye, as I am not in clique A or B there is a lot of guesswork on my part and I cam't argue against someone else's story. I am just trying to bring up the possibility of bad mouthing.

The word "hate" itself also offers a lot of room for interpretation.

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Post by Drew_ »

young_unixer wrote: post #130

Recently, I've been thinking about creating an Instagram account. I've never used it before, and I dislike it in general, but because of recent circumstances in my life (a breakup that almost gave me depression, and some other things), I need to go out more and meet new people IRL, and Instagram is the de facto way to meet people in my country, at least for those of us under 30, to the point that you're seen as weird…

I don't know what country you're in, but I'm almost certain people your age are not meeting each other on Instagram. It is not really a platform to meet anyone, especially not in the last 5 years. Joining communities (clubs, churches, etc) are the way to meet new people.

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Post by jpc0 »

polar8 wrote: post #139
CuriouslyC wrote: post #120

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I'd argue that small amounts of alcohol facilitate relaxation and socialization, which probably saves a lot more lives from preventing homicide and suicide than it costs in cancer and liver disease.

After socialization comes drunk driving which alone kills a quarter million people annually.

Here the legal limit is approximately 2 440ml cans or a draft of beer.

If you are drinking more than that across an evening I would argue it's a bit more than socialising. Maybe where you are from people are heavy drinkers and are not responsible enough to not slow down a fee hours before you know you will be driving but I feel like the quarter a million annually is quite overrepresented by heavy drinkers.

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Post by dansimco »

8s2ngy wrote: post #41

I believe many of the problems in our current social media landscape could be solved by eliminating the "feed" and instead displaying posts, updates, and pictures from friends, family, and those we know in real life. This approach might conflict with the profit models of big tech social media and could go against what most people have become accustomed to. Personally, I would love a smaller social network where I can…

This is where I want to see legislation. Required opt-out ability for algorithmic timelines.

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Post by radlad »

fsckboy wrote: post #309
moritonal wrote: post #116

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Google+ by any other name and four years earlier would have been an incredible platform. Circles were so neat.

two years earlier it was Google Buzz. two years before that it was Google Wave.

I don't recall Buzz or Wave having the Circles feature that many (including myself) miss from Google+.

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Post by lupusreal »

navbaker wrote: post #295
prmoustache wrote: post #252

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I guess it really depends if you have fed the algorithm with your preferences already.

This definitely works. I have two profiles on IG: one for musical instrument related things and one for painting miniatures. I’ve been able to keep both profiles strictly on topic by aggressively using the “not interested” button whenever something not related pops up.

That's basically what I do on youtube, except not logged in, using browser profiles to keep the cookies separate. If you exercise strict discipline then you can make the youtube algorithm work for you. Slip ups ruin it quick though.

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Post by Thoreandan »

It'd be a privilege to be able to disconnect from the feeds, but trying to rebuild in-person social interactions when you're old and have no family or local friends really sucks. Facebook's become:

* Who died this week

* Spammers liking your posts and asking for friend adds

* Gofundme's for ppl who will now spend the rest of their lives in medical debt

* Interesting articles maybe twice a week or so.

Nobody I know in town is on Mastodon or BSky.

The silence is deafening.

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