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Post by breakitmakeit »

julianeon wrote: post #347
blueyes wrote: post #229

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One of the main advantages Anthropic currently has over Google is the tooling that comes with Claude Code. It may not generate better code, and it has a lower complexity ceiling, but it can automatically find and search files, and figure out how to fix a syntax error fast.

Related: Only Claude (to my knowledge) has a desktop app which can directly, and usually quite intelligently, modify files and create repos on your desktop. It's the only "agentic" option among the major players. "Claude, make me an app which will accept Stripe payments and sell an ebook about coding in Python; first create the app, then the ebook." It would take a few passes but Claude could do this; obviously you c…

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Post by FooBarWidget »

nonethewiser wrote: post #265
no_wizard wrote: post #211

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I remember everyone saying its a two horse race between Google and OpenAI, then DeepSeek happened. Never count out the possibility of a dark horse competitor ripping the sod right out from under

How is deepseak doing though? It seemed like they probably just ingested ChatGPT. https://www.forbes.com/sites/torconstantino/2025/03/03/deeps... Still impressive but would really put a cap on expectations for them.

Everybody else also trains on ChatGPT data, have you never heard of public ChatGPT conversation data sets? Yes they trained on ChatGPT data. No it's not "just".

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Post by convivialdingo »

Dang - Google finally made a quality model that doesn’t make me want to throw my computer out a window. It’s honest, neutral and clearly not trained by the ideologically rabid anti-bias but actually super biased regime.

Did I miss a revolt or something in googley land? A Google model saying “free speech is valuable and diverse opinions are good” is frankly bizarre to see.

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

krembo wrote: post #201

How is this sustainable for Google from business POV? It feels like Google is shooting itself in the foot while "winning" the AI race.. From my experience I think Google lost 99% of the ads it used to show me before in the search engine.

Their inference costs are the lowest in the business.

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Post by pjerem »

zaphirplane wrote: post #352
fsndz wrote: post #205

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More and more people are coming to the realisation that Google is actually winning at the model level right now.

What’s with the Google cheer squad in this thread, usually it’s Google lost its way and is evil. Can’t be employees cause usually there is a disclaimer

Google can be evil and release impressive language models. The same way as Apple releasing incredible hardware with good privacy while also being a totally insufferable and arrogant company.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Post by camkego »

The pricing table image in the article really should have included Gemini 2.5 pro. Sure, it could be after Flash to the right, but it would help people understand the price performance benefits of 2.5 Flash.

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Post by hiciu »

indexerror wrote: post #355
julianeon wrote: post #347

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Related: Only Claude (to my knowledge) has a desktop app which can directly, and usually quite intelligently, modify files and create repos on your desktop. It's the only "agentic" option among the major players. "Claude, make me an app which will accept Stripe payments and sell an ebook about coding in Python; first create the app, then the ebook." It would take a few passes but Claude could do this; obviously you c…

OpenAI just released Codex, which is basically the same as Claude Code.

It looks the same, but for some reason Claude Code is much more capable. Codex got lost in my source code and hallucinated bunch of stuff, Claude on the same task just went to town, burned money and delivered.

Of course, this is only my experience and codex is still very young. I really hope it becomes as capable as Claude.

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Post by d1sxeyes »

Atotalnoob wrote: post #321
sciurus wrote: post #318

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For many workplaces, it's not just that that don't pay for a service, it's that using it is against policy. If I tried to paste some code into ChatGPT, for example, our data loss prevention spyware would block it and I'd soon be having an uncomfortable conversation with our security team. (We do have access to GitHub Copilot)

Good news then, your GitHub admins can enable Gemini for you without issue.

“Without issue” is an optimistic perspective on how this works in many organisations.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

peterjliu wrote: post #121
mmaunder wrote: post #93

More great innovation from Google. OpenAI have two major problems. The first is Google's vertically integrated chip pipeline and deep supply chain and operational knowledge when it comes to creating AI chips and putting them into production. They have a massive cost advantage at every step. This translates into more free services, cheaper paid services, more capabilities due to more affordable compute, and far more g…

another advantage is people want the Google bot to crawl their pages, unlike most AI companies

Reddit was an interesting case here. They knew that they had particularly good AI training data, and they were able to hold it hostage from the Google crawler, which was an awfully high risk play given how important Google search results are to Reddit ads, but they likely knew that Reddit search results were also really important to Google. I would love to be able to watch those negotiations on each side; what a crazy high stakes negotiation that must've been.

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Post by d1sxeyes »

brendanfinan wrote: post #338
i_love_retros wrote: post #329

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Why is it free / so cheap (I seem to be getting charged a few cents a day using it with aider so not free but still crazy cheap compared to sonnet)

we know how Google makes money

Give it a few months and it will ignore all your questions and just ask if you’ve watched Rampart.
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