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Your argument essentially amounts to "why are poor people poor when they can just get a job." I can't find anything to say about it that isn't snarky.
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Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
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Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#362Putting fluoride in water promotes freedom. That sounds crazy, but let me justify it. If you are poor you can't go anywhere or buy anything. You're not free if you're poor. If you are sick, you may be confined to a hospital bed or not feel good enough to do anything. If you are sick you're not free. Putting fluoride in water reduces dental costs and incidence of cavities and therefore tooth infections, particularly a…
Perhaps, vitamins, micro doses of aspirin, and other low level medical treatments should also be added to water, for the benefit of the silent poor and sick.
Are they silent, or just not being represented by the American press?
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#363This is one of these US-specific polarised debates I find really bizarre, around some kind of issue that the rest of the world has by large solved but without any acknowledgement of this fact. Maybe the US should look into how other countries have solved it? It is completely bizarre witnessing both sides getting so polarised around a basically non-issue.
There are a few studies out which say fluoride is bad. But as is often the case with these health idiots, the studies actually refer to places where fluoride is naturally way too high in the water. The entire debate is dumb.
It’s far more than a few, and the level does not need to be that high:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#364Putting fluoride in water promotes freedom. That sounds crazy, but let me justify it. If you are poor you can't go anywhere or buy anything. You're not free if you're poor. If you are sick, you may be confined to a hospital bed or not feel good enough to do anything. If you are sick you're not free. Putting fluoride in water reduces dental costs and incidence of cavities and therefore tooth infections, particularly a…
"freedom from government interference, is being promoted by those seeking to weaken the government enough to supplant it"
That is a very big generalisation. There are many legitimate reasons for reducing government interference and reducing the size of government.
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Perhaps, vitamins, micro doses of aspirin, and other low level medical treatments should also be added to water, for the benefit of the silent poor and sick.
Like the vitamins and minerals added to cereals/milk or the iodine added to salt?
Or the iron that I wish they wouldn't add as it means I can't eat them due to my medical condition.
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#367Fluoride in toothpaste already covers most people today. So, if there are legitimate concerns about adding it to the water supply due to fluorosis, even if those concerns are small, removing it seems reasonable to me. Are the number of people who don't brush their teeth really high enough to justify it?
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#368People who want to remove fluoride from the water should visit countries where fluoride is not added and look at people's teeth.
I live in France and it's just so obvious that people grew up without fluoride — even celebrities try to talk without showing their teeth when they're on TV!
I'm all for getting consent in most cases, but sometimes you'd have to be an idiot not to take the obvious win.
It's like we were delivering flakes of gold with the mail and people complained — that's not what mailboxes are for!
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#369maybe if we consumed less processed sugars and had normal diets, putting fluoride in the water would serve no purpose.
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#370I think it's worth reminding people of Occam's Razor, and the point of it is: a simple explanation is often better than a complicated one. The US has had water fluoridation for 65 years, affecting 346 million people. That's a pretty big god damn sample size and long amount of time in which to observe effects. If we still have no proof of significant negative health effects, it's probably not bad for you . That said:…