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Post by n4r9 »

MrMcCall wrote: post #355
n4r9 wrote: post #326

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There's a lot of subjective judgement going on in this post, but putting that aside: how does all this not apply equally well to most other wealthy billionaires such as Bezos, Ellison, Ballmer etc... ? I'm curious why you're picking on Gates.

> I'm curious why you're picking on Gates. Because I felt like willfully ignoring the precept that I should not be talking bad about another person who is not present. I am not fully submitted to the Divine Will, therefore I still make mistakes. I should not have said these things about BG and his ex-wife, even if they are bang-on true. I apologize to all who have read this, and though BG or his ex-wife will likely n…

That's admirably reflective. I was just wondering why Gates came to your mind rather than e.g. Bezos. It might be that you've recently read about some scandal that Gates hushed up. Or perhaps Gates is an easier target because he's slightly more aligned with progressive causes.

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Post by liorsbg »

specproc wrote: post #281
liorsbg wrote: post #279

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Some more information about ngo-monitor: > NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO (non-governmental organisation) activity from a pro-Israel perspective. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor

Unfortunately Wikipedia is no longer a reliable neutral source on this issue:

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/editing-hate-how-anti-i...

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Post by cobradefinitive »

mschuster91 wrote: post #89
rajman187 wrote: post #84

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> other than a bit of open source (PyTorch and React are nice, I guess) Not to detract from your main point but I think this misses a lot of contributions, eg Cassandra, Hive, Presto, GraphQL, the plethora of publications coming out of FAIR (fundamental AI research) and of course the Llama family of models which have enabled quite a few developments themselves

At least with GraphQL I think the world would be better off if it had never seen the light of day. It's a steaming pile of hyper complex dung. And for the other projects, their paths are littered with the dead bodies of engineers who had been ordered to chase down one of Facebook's hype technologies just because "Facebook does it so we can follow their best example".

It's funny to think of a scientific office tool that doesn't auto-generate macro-type operations for you as needed. Both would be on the dull side, I suppose, for somebody like me, with limited expertise in how to quantify what I guess would do the kind of thing you would most often want done with software with the name GraphQL, making graphs, but it would feel to me, I believe, more like real business work if you were asking for each graph task as needed.

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Post by alex1138 »

wyclif wrote: post #359
Hikikomori wrote: post #214

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Guses the government is also that? You're choking on that coolaid.

That the CISA works with the EIP isn't Kool-Aid, it's a fact, no matter how much it upsets the apple cart of established big media narratives. You know what else isn't "Kool-Aid"? The FBI was having monthly and even weekly meetings with Twitter executives to coordinate their efforts. Twitter under Dorsey did this in conjunction with the DHS, the DOJ, the office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, and t…

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Dorsey was personally involved in any of this

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Post by wyclif »

alex1138 wrote: post #364
wyclif wrote: post #359

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That the CISA works with the EIP isn't Kool-Aid, it's a fact, no matter how much it upsets the apple cart of established big media narratives. You know what else isn't "Kool-Aid"? The FBI was having monthly and even weekly meetings with Twitter executives to coordinate their efforts. Twitter under Dorsey did this in conjunction with the DHS, the DOJ, the office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, and t…

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Dorsey was personally involved in any of this

I don't make any claims as to the level of his involvement, but the bad stuff happened both before and after his departure. Many of the moderation decisions discussed in the Twitter Files took place while he was still CEO.

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Post by throw-qqqqq »

gryzzly wrote: post #366
throw-qqqqq wrote: post #350

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who are you affiliated with?

humanity and not Hamas, for sure. https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-46-israel-targets-hos...

You mean you’re on Israel’s side? UN Watch is not impartial at all :D

The Times of Israel describe them as “A prominent pro-Israel lobbying group at the United Nations”.

They’re not really hiding it either. All sources referenced by UN Watch to “debunk” the claims (i.e. in your linked article), are Israeli or American.

But whatever, I don’t think we can agree on much about this conflict anyway. Hope you have a nice sunday anyway.

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Post by dabockster »

hodgesrm wrote: post #265
dabockster wrote: post #263

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It wasn't so much "idealism" than it was the fact that social media was directly responsible for the election of Barack Obama in 2008, the US's first Black president. It also gave him a significant advantage in 2012. Nobody wanted to touch social media out of fear of putting future Democrat POTUS candidates at a disadvantage. Notice how, in 2017, it's only after everyone starts post mortem evaluating the 2016 electio…

> It wasn't so much "idealism" than it was the fact that social media was directly responsible for the election of Barack Obama in 2008, the US's first Black president. That's a very strong claim, hence needs strong evidence to be taken seriously.

I can't cite sources since it would involve trying to piecemeal together tons of almost 20 year old Twitter posts (the ones that are still even online in some capacity). But I'd strongly encourage anyone interested to research both the 2008 campaigns of Barack Obama and the late John McCain. Obama went hard into social media like FB and Twitter with almost daily updates, and also used those platforms to directly connect with voters. McCain's campaign, if I remember right, largely stayed off of them until right before the election. And even then, McCain/Palin only used it like an RSS feed and really didn't engage with anyone.

It's the same strategy that propelled Bernie Sanders to the national stage in 2015/2016. It's the same strategy that got Donald Trump elected, legitimately or otherwise, both in 2016 and 2024. No one wanted to touch it until it made both Trump become POTUS and made a Clinton lose an election.

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