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Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by infraking »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #72

Hashicorp's stuff always struck me as pretty hacky with awkward design decisions. For Terraform (at least a few years ago) a badly reviewed PR could cause catastrophic data loss because resources are deleted without requiring an explicit tombstone. Then they did the license change, which didn't reflect well on them. Now it's being sold to IBM, which is essentially a consulting company trying to pivot to mostly undiff…

Your team should be reviewing Terraform plans before merging any infra changes.

I find this to be a very strange criticism and is probably indicative of a poor workflow or CI/CD system if anything.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by anonfordays »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #197
iwontberude wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RHEL has had no significant investment to keep it from becoming irrelevant in the next five years. The datacenter and deployments of linux have changed so rapidly (mostly due to the new centralization and homogeneity of infrastructure investment) that RHELs niche is rapidly shrinking.

If RHEL is becoming irrelevant, what distro will replace it for enterprise users?

Talos Linux. Replaced a fleet of RHEL OpenShift with Talos recently. We're planning on moving the rest to Talos within 1.5 years. Basically, bare metal OS is going to be an implementation detail abstracted away from the internal users and developers.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by JustinGarrison »

anonfordays wrote: post #362
throwaway2037 wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If RHEL is becoming irrelevant, what distro will replace it for enterprise users?

Talos Linux. Replaced a fleet of RHEL OpenShift with Talos recently. We're planning on moving the rest to Talos within 1.5 years. Basically, bare metal OS is going to be an implementation detail abstracted away from the internal users and developers.

I'm the head of product at Sidero. Thanks for sharing! We love to hear people being successful with Talos.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by alsoforgotmypwd »

zkmon wrote: post #233

As it happened with the other startups that were acquired by IBM, this too shall pass through the digestion system of the dinosaur and ejected out as a dump. Hashicorp products are showing the signs of a legacy thing already. IBM is the nursing home for these sort of aging stuff. I'm a heavy user of Terraform and Vault products. Both do not belong to this era. Also worked for a startup acquired and dumped by IBM.

Them, CA, and Broadcom.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

#365

Post by alsoforgotmypwd »

threeseed wrote: post #55
commandersaki wrote: post #45

Enjoy switching to Lotus Notes.

It's called HCL Notes now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCL_Notes And Hashicorp are experts in HCL so I am sure they will love it.

Now, with 500% more Java and a configuration language that isn't XML. ;)

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by ghaff »

adastra22 wrote: post #360
bayindirh wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That closeness allowed CentOS to be a drop-in replacement for RHEL for thousands of installations and exotic hardware combinations. Unfortunately, we don't have this capability anymore. Rocky bears most of that load now.

Despite being a debian/ubuntu guy, I usually used CentOS for production deployments because it would be easy and seamless to upgrade to RHEL when I hit the big leagues. Not anymore. I just use the latest ubuntu LTS and call it a day. IBM/RedHat was soo predictably short sighted on this.

The free LTS/distro and pay for support if you feel like it never really worked financially. Maybe Canonical is profitable at this point. It's not Red Hat (or SUSE for that matter.)

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by ants_everywhere »

infraking wrote: post #361
ants_everywhere wrote: post #72

Hashicorp's stuff always struck me as pretty hacky with awkward design decisions. For Terraform (at least a few years ago) a badly reviewed PR could cause catastrophic data loss because resources are deleted without requiring an explicit tombstone. Then they did the license change, which didn't reflect well on them. Now it's being sold to IBM, which is essentially a consulting company trying to pivot to mostly undiff…

Your team should be reviewing Terraform plans before merging any infra changes. I find this to be a very strange criticism and is probably indicative of a poor workflow or CI/CD system if anything.

It's a design flaw. It should be nearly impossible to delete data accidentally. And it should be possible to roll back state in IIAC.

No serious organization with any scale is going to have the only thing standing between them and a production database deletion being two over tired engineers rubber stamping each other's code changes.

Bad config pushes to prod do happen and they can cause outages like the 2024 Cloudstrike outage. You don't want a tool that takes a minor (but significant) error and turns it into a catastrophic one because of poorly thought out semantics. It's better to just start with a tool that requires at least two engineers to explicitly sign off on deletion.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

#369

Post by adastra22 »

ghaff wrote: post #367
adastra22 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite being a debian/ubuntu guy, I usually used CentOS for production deployments because it would be easy and seamless to upgrade to RHEL when I hit the big leagues. Not anymore. I just use the latest ubuntu LTS and call it a day. IBM/RedHat was soo predictably short sighted on this.

The free LTS/distro and pay for support if you feel like it never really worked financially. Maybe Canonical is profitable at this point. It's not Red Hat (or SUSE for that matter.)

There are many large organizations that pay for RHEL support. Supercomputers, for example. These organizations also benefited from being able to spin up analog installs of CentOS on local machines for testing. Not anymore. I expect RHEL's market dominance in these areas to diminish over time.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Post by ghaff »

adastra22 wrote: post #369
ghaff wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The free LTS/distro and pay for support if you feel like it never really worked financially. Maybe Canonical is profitable at this point. It's not Red Hat (or SUSE for that matter.)

There are many large organizations that pay for RHEL support. Supercomputers, for example. These organizations also benefited from being able to spin up analog installs of CentOS on local machines for testing. Not anymore. I expect RHEL's market dominance in these areas to diminish over time.

HPC was always a tough sales area for Red Hat and RHEL.

In general, while RHEL is obviously still an important revenue source, there's also a lot of focus on OpenShift going forward which has done of pretty good job of covering (and more) inevitable RHEL declines moving forward.

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