To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

Post by misja111 » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 12:04 PM UTC

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #66

misja111 wrote: post #8

Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.

>Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. No. Sales plummeted right before they released the long-awaited refresh of the Model Y. By far their best selling model. We have access to weekly sales numbers in China, and guess what, sales are going through the roof again. This refresh was introduced globally (all factories converted simultaneously), which is a first for Tesla.

Post by leoedin » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 12:04 PM UTC

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If I was to buy a car these days (which I'm not, I don't have nearly enough money for that), I'd want something with as little "computer" in it as possible. Just a box with 4 wheels and an engine, or maybe a battery and a motor, maybe a heater for when it gets a bit cold, and I'll throw a bluetooth speaker in the back seat if I need something to listen to

Just to note the trade-off here: modern cars are much safer in crashes than even cars from ~20 years ago, and the less computer you want, the further back in time you need to go to find suitable cars. There are nuances to the safety thing: some brands were/are safer, more popular car designs today tend to have some features that may worsen safety (taller cars are less stable, heavier cars handle worse, big heavy cars…

Post by fouc » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 12:05 PM UTC

rightbyte wrote: post #279

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I would prefer 3.5mm over Bluetooth, but keep in mind most people get their music off their phones and (almost?) no modern phones have headphone jacks. Dongles are a thing, but meh. Additionally, modern Bluetooth devices have very little friction in my experience.

Ye. Many modern phones are *@*$ too. My wife is still bitter about not having a 3.5mm jack on hers she unknowingly bought 5 years ago. So much trouble ... However if more than one person will use the car (incl. as passanger) the annoyance of Bluetooth is even worse. We have a dongle in the car that is protected by a sworn oath to never be removed from the cabinet along with some charger cables.

Post by decimalenough » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 12:09 PM UTC

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> We can see his actions and who he funds. I’m out of the loop here. Has Musk done anything related to nazi symbols (besides that weird gesture that some people say is a nazi salute), or funded Nazi organizations? EDIT: Why the downvotes?

He's supporting the AFD in Germany among others. For a 5 min overview see here: https://youtu.be/NjWl_RNDMSA

Post by plasticchris » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 12:13 PM UTC

tomp wrote: post #350

voidUpdate wrote: post #226

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If I was to buy a car these days (which I'm not, I don't have nearly enough money for that), I'd want something with as little "computer" in it as possible. Just a box with 4 wheels and an engine, or maybe a battery and a motor, maybe a heater for when it gets a bit cold, and I'll throw a bluetooth speaker in the back seat if I need something to listen to

It's literally illegal. In the EU, it's illegal to sell cars that don't have back camera, not beeping if seatbelt not fastened, and not beeping if speed limit is exceeded.