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Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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This wasn't a buggy update. It was announced ahead of time via email, including compensation options.

I’m just going by the article, which describes it as a “surprise update” that “came out of nowhere”. Am I missing something?

They emailed us in advance of the update being pushed out saying it would lower battery life, and offered compensation options ahead of time. It wasn't reactionary. If it were a buggy update the email wouldn't come before the update.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Well first you said it didn’t happen in France - and it did. No one has ever accused the EU of being tech literate. And that feature is still part of iOS…

> Well first you said it didn’t happen in France - and it did. It did, shortly, then Apple got fined and then the feature was removed, yes, there's no contradiction whatsoever with anything I said. > No one has ever accused the EU of being tech literate. First it has no link with the EU, and then you said it wasn't about tech but “physics”. And surely Apple would hire lawyers familiar enough with physics to be able t…

> First it has no link with the EU, and then you said it wasn't about tech but “physics”. And surely Apple would hire lawyers familiar enough with physics to be able to explain it…

So now are you back to saying that rechargeable battery degradation is not a thing? It is literally physics

https://gizmodo.com/scientists-solved-the-mystery-of-why-rec...

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Unless your Pixel 4a is from Verizon (locked), keep it. Unlock the bootloader, then install LineageOS, MindTheGapps, and Magisk. Once you have Magisk stabilized, install the Advanced Charging Controller, and configure it to halt charging at 80%. That should solve your problems, and turn the updates back on. I don't think there is a way to make Google Pay work in this configuration, which is a drawback. I can put all…

And then you can't access bank or government apps anymore... I used to root my phone, it's not worth it anymore

Play Integrity Fix usually solves that. Be sure to leave one star reviews for apps that mistreat you in this way.

https://github.com/chiteroman/PlayIntegrityFix

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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> Well first you said it didn’t happen in France - and it did. It did, shortly, then Apple got fined and then the feature was removed, yes, there's no contradiction whatsoever with anything I said. > No one has ever accused the EU of being tech literate. First it has no link with the EU, and then you said it wasn't about tech but “physics”. And surely Apple would hire lawyers familiar enough with physics to be able t…

> First it has no link with the EU, and then you said it wasn't about tech but “physics”. And surely Apple would hire lawyers familiar enough with physics to be able to explain it… So now are you back to saying that rechargeable battery degradation is not a thing? It is literally physics https://gizmodo.com/scientists-solved-the-mystery-of-why-rec...

No that's not what I'm saying, and you know it, you're just falling back to this absurd argument because that's all you have.

What I'm saying is that Apple's army of lawyer failed to justify how this behavior was indeed justified by laws of physics, and obviously you cannot do better than them. Your argument is just one of a fanboy coping against facts.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Sony are giving up on the compact flagship 5 series because "People are no longer interested in compact phones and would rather go for a large one if it offers the same benefits". And unfortunately the specs of the Xperia 10 just doesn't cut it for me. :(

Ugh, pockets aren't getting bigger. Buying my last phone was a real challenge - even 6.5 inches long feels huge, and there were very few options under 7 inches.

Funny enough I found some old pants that still fit, ~20y old, and those pockets does not fit a modern phone. But I remember my Nokia 6210 being just the right size for them.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Thank you for sharing your expertise. It seems to be unbelievable that none of this has become part of AOSP. I should have a battery setting that optimizes either for battery longevity, or for maximum power delivery. These settings should incorporate best practice, such as you have outlined. The last stable ACC release was in late 2023, and it appears to remain the best battery management tool for longevity. Why is t…

> I should have a battery setting that optimizes either for battery longevity, or for maximum power delivery. Newer Pixels have a concept of "bed time" and charge slower overnight, for battery health.

This is also present in my 4a, perhaps it's a feature of Android 13.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Apple is no where near as invasive as Google. Most sites on the Internet phone home to Google. Here are some examples: https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/ https://news.google.com/swg/js/v1/swg.js - I found these on the Washington Post's web site. https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/opensans/v20/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaU... https://www.googletagmanager.com/static/service_worker/51n0/... - I found these on New Egg's home page. h…

You will get tracked by those even if you use an Apple device. The key difference between Android and iOS is that Android gives users the ability not to be tracked. iOS (even MacOS) doesn't even let you uninstall Apple News. iOS won't let you get your location or install an app without telling Apple. It won't even let you run a browser other than Safari, which has known data leaking vulnerabilities. User control is t…

Safari blocks a lot of these trackers. For more information, please see https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/browse-the-web-privat... .

Also, you missed the point of my comment. The comment I replied to basically was saying Apple and Google are equivalent because Apple sells ads (they sell search listings in the App store search and may run an optional advertising service for apps). My point was they are not equivalent because Apple does not track people around the web like Google does. The other things is Apple has released a lot of privacy features which interfere with the advertising spying machine.

At best, Google pretends to improve privacy. Google's business is basically building a profile on each individual so they can serve the most relevant ads to that person. They make more money when they serve relevant ads (ads people will see, and maybe buy something based on the ad). Google has no interest or incentive to protect privacy because their business depends on invading privacy.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #365

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Ugh, pockets aren't getting bigger. Buying my last phone was a real challenge - even 6.5 inches long feels huge, and there were very few options under 7 inches.

Funny enough I found some old pants that still fit, ~20y old, and those pockets does not fit a modern phone. But I remember my Nokia 6210 being just the right size for them.

Sounds about right. I remember around 15 years ago a family member got a new phone and I thought it was laughably big. Probably smaller than what I'm currently using in retrospect.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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You will get tracked by those even if you use an Apple device. The key difference between Android and iOS is that Android gives users the ability not to be tracked. iOS (even MacOS) doesn't even let you uninstall Apple News. iOS won't let you get your location or install an app without telling Apple. It won't even let you run a browser other than Safari, which has known data leaking vulnerabilities. User control is t…

Safari blocks a lot of these trackers. For more information, please see https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/browse-the-web-privat... . Also, you missed the point of my comment. The comment I replied to basically was saying Apple and Google are equivalent because Apple sells ads (they sell search listings in the App store search and may run an optional advertising service for apps). My point was they are not equiva…

> My point was they are not equivalent because Apple does not track people around the web like Google does.

That's a pittance of privacy. Apple sells your search results out to Google, cooperates with NSA surveillance and institutes online DRM for your apps. They do not care about protecting you from tracking because tracking users is official policy for Apple in both iOS and MacOS.

It is pathetic to watch people on this site rush out to defend Apple like they aren't part of the problem. If you have witnessed Tim Cook's behavior over the past 10 years and still hold hope for Apple, you are not paying close enough attention.

> At best, Google pretends to improve privacy.

Google still published AOSP source code. That's not "pretending" to improve anything, it's an outright statement about the transparent security of their product. I hate AdSense and consider it an anticompetitive scourge on the internet, but I don't see Apple making commitments to security on the level of Google. Last I checked they were still trying to sue security researchers...

If you think Google is "pretending" to improve privacy, how can you deny that Apple pretends too? The reason people drill down on this isn't to defend Google, it's to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not actually know what Apple's stance is on this and cannot confirm it with hard evidence. You are repeating marketing and whitepapers, hoping that it's correct.

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