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The only difference is scalar. That isn't differentiating, that's segregation. It won't stop crypto and LLM peeps from buying everything (one assumes TDP is proportional too). Gamers not being able to find an affordable option is still a problem.
Are crypto use cases still there? I thought that went away after eth switched their proof model.
The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).
Even though they are all marketed as gaming cards, Nvidia is now very clearly differentiating between 5070/5070 Ti/5080 for mid-high end gaming and 5090 for consumer/entry-level AI. The gap between xx80 and xx90 is going to be too wide for regular gamers to cross this generation.
Nvidia is also clearly differentiating the 5090 as the gaming card for people who want the best and an extra thousand dollars is a rounding error. They could have sold it for $1500 and still made big coin, but no doubt the extra $500 is pure wealth tax. It probably serves to make the 4070 look reasonably priced, even though it isn't.
4090 was already priced for high income (in first world countries) people. Nvidia saw 4090s were being sold on second hand market way beyond 2k. They merely milking the cow.
The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).
Can you actually use multiple videocards easily with existing AI model tools?
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> modern games + modern cards can't even do 4k at high fps What "modern games" and "modern cards" are you specifically talking about here? There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example.
This - latest Call of Duty game on my (albeit water cooled) 3080TI founders edition saw frame rates in the 90-100fps running natively at 4k (no DLSS).
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This - latest Call of Duty game on my (albeit water cooled) 3080TI founders edition saw frame rates in the 90-100fps running natively at 4k (no DLSS).
Can't CoD do 60+ fps @1080p on a potato nowadays?... not exactly a good reference point.
I’d say the comparison is what’s faulty, not the example.
Ooo, that means its probably time for me to get a used 2080, or maybe even a 3080 if I'm feeling special
The 2080 was a particularly poor value card, especially when considering the small performance uplift and the absolute glut of 1080 Tis that were available. A quick look on my local ebay also indicates they're both around the €200-250 range for used buy it now, so it seems to make way more sense to go to a 3080.
> will be two times faster [...] thanks to DLSS 4 Translation: No significant actual upgrade. Sounds like we're continuing the trend of newer generations being beaten on fps/$ by the previous generations while hardly pushing the envelope at the top end. A 3090 is $1000 right now.
Why is that a problem though? Newer and more GPU intensive games get to benefit from DLSS 4 and older games already run fine. What games without DLSS support could have done with a boost? I've heard this twice today so curious why it's being mentioned so often.
So why should we consider to buy a GPU at twice the price when it has barely improved rasterization performance? An artificially generation-locked feature anyone with good vision/perception despises isn't going to win us over.
Pretty interesting watching their tech explainers on YouTube about the changes in their AI solutions. Apparently they switched from CNNs to transformers for upscaling (with ray tracing support) if I understood correctly though for frame generation makes even more sense to me. 32 GB VRAM on the highest end GPU seems almost small after running LLMs with 128 GB RAM on the M3 Max, but the speed will most likely more than…
The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).