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Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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post #79

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Marketplace… somehow they took over the marketplace for used stuff and killed cl. OfferUp was always crap so it doesn’t count.

Craigslist is still there. They only way to keep it around is make sure you use it.

As a seller u don’t use it but as a buyer I go where the sellers are

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post #136
post #79

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Craigslist is still there. They only way to keep it around is make sure you use it.

In some regions (mine) Craigslist never took off, and now is a ghost town. I would estimate it gets less than 1% of the traffic of FB Marketplace, in terms of number of vehicles posted. And nearly all of them are car lots, not individuals.

In Seattle FB marketplace for cars is almost entirely dealer spam and totally useless. It totally depends on location.

Craigslist died for cars because you have to pay to post now

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Marketplace… somehow they took over the marketplace for used stuff and killed cl. OfferUp was always crap so it doesn’t count.

I haven't used Facebook itself for 7 or 8 years now, but had to break down and make a private account just to access Marketplace. For buying used cars private party today, it seems like Marketplace is the only good option.

Idk how you find anything, it’s almost all spam on fb. There is no way to filter it out either.

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post #57
post #51

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The answer is network effect and friction . It is hard to communicate to everyone on your friends list that moving forward they can reach you via email or text only. It’s going to work with close friends and family but other people that want to reach out will not be able to find you. And there are always cases when you want to connect (or be easy to find) with someone who is not a close acquaintance.

I'm not trying to be combative, but that still seems like a very weak reason. And it's one that I used to use, not just with FB, but Twitter, IG and LinkedIn. They all held the same promise and failed to deliver it. The idea that we need to be constantly networking is overblown, to say the least. When you step back and have an honest conversation with yourself about how much having access to these people you occasion…

I should had clarified my case a bit better. I am a writer. People that I don't know (or know very little about) contact me to invite me to book festivals, propose collaboration on some presentation, reach out to ask stuff about what I write, inform me about updates that I need to follow, coverage that I am included in or interviews that they would like me to give. There is no other way to facilitate this communication other than to have an easily discoverable profile on a social media platform. Could I do it any other way? Sure, I could print my email on my books or leave it to people to reach out to my publisher to get my contact info. But that adds friction. I could create a webpage for my work, but that means people have to visit it to stay up to date. I could create a newsletter, that I would have to keep up to date and that people would never check, alongside the other hundreds of newsletter mail they don't check.

On top of that I also follow other people's work, festivals, book fairs, interviews, publications etc. They also post everything on Facebook (some on Instagram as well). There is no other option to stay in touch with this circle of people if you are not on social media.

I dislike Meta and I agree that the social media have deteriorated considerably from what they supposedly promise to offer. But they are still better than the alternatives.

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#365
post #171

Facebook Meta has been making baffling bets lately. They spent tens of billions building a metaverse with the belief that people want to spend their days in a creepy legless 3d avatar of themselves that is pretty effective at simulating what it feels to have body dysphoria, playing with their other legless friends and spending a lot of money customizing their dysphoric avatars. Now they believe what users really want…

> I really believe Zuckerberg is a lizard after all, I can't find any other sane explanation for this

The most likely explanation is that Zuck and others of his generation that have hit the infinite money glitch in tech have no interest in statesmanship, in helping the less fortunate in the real world. I say "of his generation" because even a jaded monopolist like Bill Gates shifted his interests to actual global challenges (not saying he's perfect though).

For Zuck, Musk, Dorsey, the Snapchat guys, it seems that every ounce of their industry, charisma and delusion is targeted towards maximizing their wealth and notoriety further.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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I haven't used Facebook itself for 7 or 8 years now, but had to break down and make a private account just to access Marketplace. For buying used cars private party today, it seems like Marketplace is the only good option.

Idk how you find anything, it’s almost all spam on fb. There is no way to filter it out either.

I haven't run into a problem with spam marketplace listings. I do live in a pretty rural area though, may just not be a problem out here.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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post #338

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> They say they do but they really don't, Probably depends on your usage pattern. I think most would prefer it, but "engagement" measurements will make it seem like they hate it, because they spend less time on the page. If companies like Facebook actually wanted to know, they'd make the setting "sticky" rather than constantly reset to algorithmic, then measure over 3 - 12 months how many switches to either one and s…

Nah. It's mostly just the HN bubble that claims to want a chronological feed. The casual users are actually the ones who most prefer the algorithm so that they see posts about major life events at the top even when they haven't logged in for a while.

In practice though that's not how it works

People regularly miss posts

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#369
post #336

Hey here's a novel idea Have social media websites be reverse chronological posts by friends/pages you follow instead of what AI thinks you're interested in (and yet somehow not explicitly following, yet you get it in your feed anyway)

Just move to Bluesky or Mastodon.

Facebook works because of network effects of people you know in real life

For the vast majority of people, leaving is not an option, and no, the "you always have a choice" line is simply not correct

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#370
post #167

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Every single one of your supposed citation talks about third parties selling engagement, except some speculation in [2]. Even the AI answer doesn’t support your claim, and regardless it’s super ironic that you consider several AI agents giving you similar answers about real world events strong evidence of anything.

Are you implying that TikTok had >50% of likes coming from bots and didn't know it? You don't need to fake the likes yourself to get the effect you want. The same thing was happening on Instagram and Facebook - just at a much smaller ratio - mostly because they stopped the problem earlier and the bot technologies got better and easier while TikTok was trying to grow and doing nothing to stop it - not because Instagra…

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