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US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Hayes Code. Comics Code Authority. And so on and so forth.

None of those were laws?

The Hayes Code exists to have a standardized industry guideline in response to individual states issuing dozens of differing film censorship bills. So while it is not a law, it is a guideline for how to be compliant with a rapidly proliferating number of censorship laws.

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The problem with AU's U16 ban is that it's going to end up being a de facto real ID requirement for any Australian to communicate online. And also, how many of us on this site were able to learn and grow because they got online as teenagers and learned things? It would have been much, much better to regulate out the worst features of social media platforms for everyone than to pass a Bill that nobody knows how to imp…

The success rates for MOOCs is usually lower than 5%. MOOCs were the holy grail - free, Quality, any time, education. And it still had single digit pass rates. ———- The people who are self motivated to learn, are probably people who move entire fields forward. They are likely very happy while learning. It’s an important part of human survival and existence. We can and should optimize for it. We are going to waste ene…

I find MOOC videos super useful even though I havent been motivated to complete one properly. I may not have the time to juggle work and an MOOC with homework deadlines, but sometimes the MOOC videos may be all I need to finish a complex task.

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My hope is that maybe people will stop viewing life from such a productised and artificial lens that's so far removed from the natural human experience.

Yeah, that is what I thought. I think you are trolling and your response is just a bunch of word salad without much meaning. You agree with the ban because you agree with the ban because you think the ban is good. There seem to be no critical analysis as to why this is good besides some supposed good intentions.

You've been making so many weirdly heated blanket assumptions about me as a person in this thread.

If you have a different opinion at least try and be civil.

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This is one of the things in my lifetime that gives me the most optimism, alongisde the IRA Bill. as someone in Australia who strongly supports our recent U16 ban, I hope META gets removed/broken up for you guys soon after, at least for underage users. I'm 22 and often wish I had never been born into a world with social media, with the belief that it is one of the worst things we have ever made as a species. I know t…

Funny, this is one of those topics that has repeatedly given me great pessimism. If you take the conclusion that social media is corrosive to society then it should lead to a game of whack-a-mole against all social media. Yet I don't see that being the case in the emerging bipartisan narrative - the implication being that it's great when we do it.

On the other hand if you take it as a threat to national security, there needs to be a clearer argument for why that outweighs the pretty immediate free speech implications of the large number of users who do not want the app to be banned. This sets a huge precedent and yet I see proponents of the ban just getting carried away as to why the perceived short term benefits are justified with such unclear long-term ramifications. This is fundamentally about how speech on the internet stacks up against the interests of the defense department.

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I don't understand this position. It's not censorship, it's security. It's protecting USA from China. Why should we allow China to have access to all contacts, media, location, etc for half of all Americans? Would you agree on a limited ban for military or government employees?

If I had to pick between sharing my data with the Chinese government or US corporations I would pick China every single time.

As an American or someone who is interested in US security, this is illogical. China bans US software to protect itself and we should do the same. We should also ban most computer hardware as it's not possible to regulate. As Israel has shown with the pagers, supply chain attacks are pretty serious.

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This is one of the things in my lifetime that gives me the most optimism, alongisde the IRA Bill. as someone in Australia who strongly supports our recent U16 ban, I hope META gets removed/broken up for you guys soon after, at least for underage users. I'm 22 and often wish I had never been born into a world with social media, with the belief that it is one of the worst things we have ever made as a species. I know t…

We should also ask ourselves why we haven’t developed better tools or advocated more effectively for open APIs to mitigate the negative effects of social media. Platforms like Twitter/X often foster toxicity and binary thinking around complex topics. Imagine if X (or any other social platform) provided the "right" APIs, enabling third-party tools to introduce features like a "hate counterbalance" or a curated presentation of opposing viewpoints, or clarity on contentious topics. Such tools could help users break out of echo chambers and avoid the spiraling effect of focused "black hole" of hate.

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My hope is that maybe people will stop viewing life from such a productised and artificial lens that's so far removed from the natural human experience.

you are hoping wrong then, tiktok block will only exacerbates this. Coincidence: in portuguese tolo means fool

In what world does blocking the most popular social media app directly lead to more usage of social media?

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Every time you hear about freedom of speech in US, let's not forget that this is the country that gave 10 years prison term for anti-war speech (and for being a socialist) to Eugene Debs [1]. For comparison, in Russia the maximum term for anti-war speech now is 7 years. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs#Sedition_convic...

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"People forget how relaxed life was before everyone could point a camera at someone and upload and embarass them in 10 seconds" But that has been a thing since quite a while and unless you ban smartphones, won't go away. Not in general at least, but smartphone free areas (in school) are likely beneficial. On the other hand, we can also make it illegal and enforce it in an easy way to upload pictures of other people a…

Not really. It was not socially acceptable to record in all scenarios. The negative effect for the recording person was larger than the internet fame on average.

Not for the kids who grew up with this.

Kids would film themselves bullying others even before you could get internet points for sharing it.

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"A large part of it" However, the evidence is that "at least two" Congressmen mentioned it as a reason a single time each.

“You provided a single link so all the evidence in the world is that single link” is some lame trolling. The topic has been reported many times over since last October/November, with letter to Treasury Secretary [1], op-eds, hearings and addresses on Congress floor which you can look up yourself in a few minutes. [2] is a starting point from early on. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/israel-palestine-hawl..…

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