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I don't see the point. The Unabomber manifesto had nothing to do with bombs. It is a commentary on the state of technology in society and a commentary on leftism.

You can't say it had nothing to do with them. At a minimum, the manifesto directly motivated them. Im not a Kaczynski scholar, so maybe it is possible to embrace the philosophy and come to sperate conclusions, but that is rarely the case for manifestos. They usually make strong positive claims about the necessity and justification of the author's actions.

The objective of the killings was to get the manifesto published in mainstream media. If you actually read it, which I'm guessing you didn't, then you'd see that Ted K did not really advocate random killings. He was concerned about taking down industrial civlization entirely.

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After seemingly acting so carefully right before and after the shooting I’m perplexed as to why he had so much evidence still on him (Gun/silencer, Fake ID, manifesto) during the arrest. One would think he would have discarded or destroyed those things as soon as possible after the incident.

The three possibilities I see:

1. He wanted to get caught

2. This isn't him, and they're framing this guy

3. He figured the safest place to have that stuff was on his person, but then why go and get arrested at McDonald's? To be fair I don't know about that interaction.

I don't buy 3 because there were so, so many places to ditch shit between Altoona and Manhattan. The Susquehanna for starters.

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He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Maybe he was planning to do another.

This fits.

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Personally, I don't put a lot of weight on that. Particularly for people who are terminally online, the Unabomber manifesto is kinda "edgy content". A lot of these people want to come off as "edgy". He had Mein Kampf in his Goodreads profile too. Without other evidence, I don't think that really says anything either. Good example: his Goodreads had "Introduction to Algorithms" in it. This is the de facto textbook at…

Ted K's book is a lucid commentary on technology and society and recommends the dismantling of technological society. Not sure why it would be considered "edgy".

Probably all the mail bombings.

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Regarding the title, "Software developer arrested in connection with murder of healthcare executive," what is the significance of him being a software developer and why is that relevant to the assassination? "Software developer" is not even mentioned once in the article. Is this BBC article the wrong link? Am I missing something?

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His Goodreads comment on Ted Kacyzinski's book (better known for other work). https://i.redd.it/j9n3oplojv5e1.jpeg

More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

People act based on incentives and disincentives. As of 2024, there are big incentives to cause great damage to society at large for pure personal gain in a manner like this CEO, with no disincentives.

This brings back a potential disincentive, and is what has been incredibly sorely needed.

The French revolution is often brought up here as a case that is supposed to show that this kind of violence leads to horrific outcomes. This is ironic as on the whole, its results were fantastic. Reason being that it didn't just affect France - all over Europe, the monarchies were suddenly much more willing to restrain their power and care a lot more about the peasants.

This is exactly what is needed. This doesn't have to happen to every similar CEO to have an incredibly positive effect.

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