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Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Guess Australia will get a lot of kids well-versed in VPN use.

According to recent studies kids don't know what a file or a folder is and can't even copy/paste anymore, I think we have a good margin.

You don't need any of those things to figure out how to install a VPN. My son had installed a VPN before he knew those concepts because a VPN mattered to him to circumvent region locks while knowing what folders are didn't.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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post #30

Guess Australia will get a lot of kids well-versed in VPN use.

Until they ban VPNs. Moral panics acknowledge no bounds of sanity.

Banning VPNs requires significant investment in filtering traffic, because the VPNs these kids will be using won't be hosted in Australia.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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post #92

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Or marijuana or cocaine. It’s super easy for the government to deny access to things people want by fiat, as evidenced by the fact that nobody does cocaine anymore.

Sadly I can confirm that people still do cocaine

But not 96% of people and not 99.5% regularly.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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See this is just thing the commenter you are replying to is saying. Just read the comments in your second link tearing apart the study. Given the replication crisis in psychology, the authors make bad choices in the experiment design that are not justifiable in 2022.

How about my third link?

I'm getting a 502 error trying to access the original content. It doesn't appear to be a scientific study, but rather a testimony from a Facebook executive talking about how they disregarded user safety in the development of algorithms that increased engagement. That's not quite what I'm looking for, though. I'd like to see something examining the effects of those behaviors on the population.

I will say that the lengths the executive goes to to compare social media with tobacco degrade the quality of the argument in my opinion; science tends to ask the question and then seek the answer. Arguments like this seem to start with the answer (it's like Big Tobacco) and then construct the argument accordingly.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Any and all kids in rural areas. Experience deprivation is a very real thing. I grew up in a desolate rural area, circa the 1980s and 1990s. The Internet - WebChatBroadcasting, ICQ, IRC, etc - was like a gift from the gods in the early 1990s. Cutting off young teens from access to the world via 'social media,' is a human rights violation.

The idea that social media is like a Meta commercial, all making new friends and video calls to smiling Grandparents, etc. is a fabrication, presumably one that a lot of HN folks have a vested interest in maintaining. Kids are lonelier now than they have ever been.

1. How granular does that data get for urban/rural/suburbs? 2. What effect does social media have on the floor of loneliness?

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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This is going to be an interesting experiment to watch. Because if I know kids, they will find any creative way they can to circumvent the ban. And even worse is if some actor out there starts catering to kids by publishing "proxy services". My opinion on this is that it's the same as banning drugs. People want to use them, and will find any way to use them.

> And even worse is if some actor out there starts catering to kids by publishing "proxy services".

How long until this happens and there's a big paedophilia scare so I can point and laugh at everyone involved?

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Pretty sure you're being downvoted for implying that 99.9% of adults are "MAPs".

My guess is that BSDobelix was downvoted and flagged for implying that people supportive of LGBTQ rights are (in comparison to the rest of the population) significantly more likely to be pedophiles.

Ironic considering how many conservative anti-LGBTQ pastors and bishops sexually assault children.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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This is going to be an interesting experiment to watch. Because if I know kids, they will find any creative way they can to circumvent the ban. And even worse is if some actor out there starts catering to kids by publishing "proxy services". My opinion on this is that it's the same as banning drugs. People want to use them, and will find any way to use them.

This is where kids might flock to decentralized options like Mastadon or something.
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