Jaywalking legalized in New York City

Post by db48x » Sat, Nov 02, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #351

dathinab wrote: post #187

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>New Yorkers don't have a concept of "jaywalking"; it's just "walking." It's also not a word in the German language at all, it's just "crossing the road". If you do it safely grate, if you don't not grate and if there are children nearby unsafe road crossing is really something you shouldn't do, especially it it's just because you are to lazy to walk a small bit more (I think crossing a road close by a pedestrian cro…

Not in the UK either. My assumption for the first 30+ years of my life, after watching US films was that it was something akin to walking while looking suspicious. I find the differing conceptions of 'freedom' interesting. The US likes to think of itself as more free, but they can't even cross the road. PS fyi, its 'great'. 'grate' sounds the same, but that means a thick metal grid, typically on the floor, or as to g…

Post by gmokki » Sun, Nov 03, 2024, 5:55 AM UTC

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seanmcdirmid wrote: post #167

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On street parking really is the worse as a pedestrian. Yes, you can technically cross at any intersection in Seattle, but cars are parked so close that they won't see you unless you poke your head out. A lot of pedestrian problems could be solved by getting rid of or severely restricting on street parking. Also, drugs are a huge issue. We have a lot of pedestrian/car accidents, something like 70% of them involves con…

technically speaking the law is that you can't park 20 feet from an intersection but in practice this is rarely enforced in Seattle. I feel like literally putting up plastic posts and paint blocking the 20 foot zone would do wonders for safety. it also does not help that people in Seattle love a rolling California stop, which is not legal. Combine that with the baseline level of driver distraction and I have gotten a…

Post by brewtide » Mon, Nov 04, 2024, 1:03 AM UTC

lazyasciiart wrote: post #288

stratocumulus0 wrote: post #284

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At the same time, a great deal of pedestrian crossings is not marked for cars at all, and only at most hinted towards for pedestrians. Sometimes there is a small pedestrian crossing sign painted on the road facing the sidewalk, sometimes there's just a slight decline in the curbside on both sides. I guess that this is some legal loophole to give cars priority, since legally they have to stop if someone wants to cross…

Laws vary. In Washington every street corner is an unmarked crosswalk, where pedestrians have priority. Many drivers don’t know this, of course.

Post by readthenotes1 » Tue, Nov 05, 2024, 1:38 AM UTC

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Asking pedestrians to cross streets where cars are stopped and they are mostly protected? How is that broken?

I’m guessing they meant most frequently broken. But as someone who lives in a country that has never had that law, I’m pretty sure it’s unnecessary.

Post by pjmlp » Tue, Nov 05, 2024, 10:34 AM UTC

gxonatano wrote: post #87

Let's not forget that jaywalking was essentially created by the automotive industry and its lobbyists, to make life more convenient for drivers. It started in car-heavy places like California, and eventually became a law virtually everywhere in the US, but was never really enforced in New York City, where most people walk or take public transit, rather than drive. If, like most New Yorkers, you walk several kilometer…