Alright, who wants to go wardriving around the mission with me, blasting Never Gonna Give You Up?
Someone did it - October 1st 12:36AM
Living the meme
Bop Spotter
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#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perfect is the enemy of good. I've found it's much better to get a project up and running as an "MVP" than to chase the perfect until the details suck all the fun out of it.
This attitude is one of the worst, most harmful things to come out of Silicon Valley tech culture.
I sincerely doubt that. Should you blindly apply it to everything? Of course not, nuance exists.
Apply it OP's project. The project is super cool, popular, and most of all it's done and it exists. The worst thing you can say about it is that it's not perfect and failed one weird purity test. Oh no, public audio gets sent to a server!
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#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no right to privacy in a public space. It is not illegal to record an area where individuals would not have the expectation of privacy, even without their consent. Therefore, this is not illegal. If this were a restaurant, that would be a different story.
> There is no right to privacy in a public space. No legally protected right. This doesn't mean it is ethical, and given that it is a protected right in other jurisdictions shows it deserves more consideration and should not be hand waived away. If "it's legal" is the argument being used to defense a behavior, it's safe to assume it's not actually a good one.
No, "it's legal" is the argument being used to defend the "it's illegal" and "you're not allowed to" argument. The argument to support the project is that it's cool af.
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#364TIL about Shot Spotter
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#365Some details on how this works: https://twitter.com/rtwlz/status/1840821351055311245 The phone has a Tasker script running on loop (even if the battery dies, it’ll restart when it boots again) Script records 10 min of audio in airplane mode, then comes out of airplane mode and connects to nearby free WiFi. Then uploads the audio file to my server, which splits it into 15 sec chunks that slightly overlap. Passes each…
That's so cool, I gotta check out this Tasker thing! >when it boots again Do any Android phones turn on automatically when sufficiently charged? The ones I've had stay switched off but with a little battery charging animation. (I think my old iPhone auto powered on when charged past a certain percentage though.)
When the phone is "off" but showing the charging animation, it's actually booted and the animation is a program it's running. There used to be a hack, I don't know if it works on modern Android, where you'd essentially edit the init scripts and tell it that the charging animation task should be the rest of the boot process, or your specific app of interest.
Re: Bop Spotter
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perfect is the enemy of good. I've found it's much better to get a project up and running as an "MVP" than to chase the perfect until the details suck all the fun out of it.
I don't see what that has to do with what I said. Chasing an MVP doesn't have to involve disrespecting people's privacy and recording without consent. There are many worse violators than this, but it is what it is.
It is good to care about this sort of thing, but this is untargeted recording in public. It is not very different to the fact that if I was recording a home movie in public I may incidentally record someone's conversation.
The real harm would occur if the conversations were being stored and analysed systematically, for example by police. But the OP is not doing that (they claim).
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#367Re: Bop Spotter
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no right to privacy in a public space. It is not illegal to record an area where individuals would not have the expectation of privacy, even without their consent. Therefore, this is not illegal. If this were a restaurant, that would be a different story.
> There is no right to privacy in a public space. No legally protected right. This doesn't mean it is ethical, and given that it is a protected right in other jurisdictions shows it deserves more consideration and should not be hand waived away. If "it's legal" is the argument being used to defense a behavior, it's safe to assume it's not actually a good one.
It is legal. The claim was that it wasn’t.
I never argued it was ethical. I think it is, but that wasn’t my argument.
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess no one with loud music considers themself an asshole, so this should be actually giving the information on exactly what you mention.
I had a collogue who installed his speaker setup facing backwards out of his trunk. He knew what he was doing.
Subs are non-directional, as someone else pointed out, and bass sound waves need room to propagate. The actual direction they get "aimed" can also depend on the trunk area and shape.
My subs, while currently pointing backwards, would have been better firing upwards for no other reason than the manufacturer (Audiofrog) doesn't recommend grills. As it is, I have to be careful what I place in my trunk to avoid punching a hole in the cone.
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#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
Different old songs (still on Shazam) in lat and long direction, if you find two of them you have the exact location. Could also place a directional speaker on top of your cars roof to not listen to it yourself or interrupt neighbors, just to be able to locate it.
Space-filling curve with a single song sequence? … Non-Euclidean space-filling curve, technically, because it has to fit the city grid topology. Large phased-array speaker on a stationary balloon platform above the city, capable of rapidly scanning and blasting every telephone pole in the neighborhood?
Someone out there asking google maps to plot them a Hilbert curve through San Francisco.