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OpenAI to become for-profit company
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Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#362I guess this vindicates the (original) OpenAI Board, when they tried to fire Sam Altman.
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#363Reminds me of what my first-year econ professor in college once stated after disabusing myself and some other undergrads of our romantic notions about how life should work.
"Do I shock you? This is capitalism."
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#364When a company makes such a transition are they liable for any sort of backdated taxes/expenses they avoided as a non-profit?
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#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
If information is publicly available to be read by humans, I fail to see any reason why it wouldn't be also available to be read by robots. Update: ML doesn't copy information. It can merely memorise some small portions of it.
Do a thought process. Should you and your friends be able to go to a public library with a van full of copiers with each one of you take a book and run to the van to make a copy? And you are doing it 24/7.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of the companies you've listed, Microsoft's AI products that are actually useful are all based on GPT-4, and the rest of them don't have any models that are truly on par with it.
o1 seems to be a step ahead for certain applications, but before that it seems that Claude Sonnet 3.5 was widely seen as the best model, and no doubt we'll be seeing next models from Anthropic shortly. For corporate use cost/benefit is a big factor, not necessarily what narrow benchmarks your expensive top model can eke out a win on.
Claude was not the best model for reasoning even vs 4o, and it's quite visible once you start giving it more complex logical puzzles. People seem to like it more mostly because the way it speaks is less forced and robotic, and it's better at creative writing usually, but if you need actual _intelligence_, GPT is still quite a bit ahead of everybody else.
Now I don't think that it's because OpenAI has some kind of secret sauce. It rather seems that it's mostly due to their first mover advantage and access to immense hardware resources thanks to their Microsoft partnership. Nevertheless, whatever the reason their models are superior, that superiority is quantifiable in money.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#367So are they going to give elon equity? He donated millions to the non profit and now they are going to turn around and turn the company into a for-profit based on the work done with that capital.
Elon has allegedly refused equity in OpenAI. He seems to want it to go back to its original mission (which isn't going to happen) or die (which isn't going to happen).
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#368Now we know why people like Ilya, Brockman, Murati, etc. left the company.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#369So are they going to give elon equity? He donated millions to the non profit and now they are going to turn around and turn the company into a for-profit based on the work done with that capital.
Elon has allegedly refused equity in OpenAI. He seems to want it to go back to its original mission (which isn't going to happen) or die (which isn't going to happen).
Sam Altman also allegedly had no interest in equity.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
Recording devices destroyed most of the musician's jobs. Vast majority of musicians who were employed before advent of recordings didn't have their own material and were not good enough to make good recordings anyway. Same with artists now: the great ones will be much more productive, but the bottom 80-90% won't have anything to do anymore.
I disagree, with AI the dynamics are very different from recording. Current AI can greatly elevate what a beginning artist can produce. If you have a decent grasp of proportions, perspective and good ideas, but aren't great at drawing, then using AI can be a huge quality improvement. On the other hand if you're a top expert that draws quickly and efficiently it's quite possible that AI can't do very much for you in a…
I think it will just emphasise different skills and empower creative fields which use art but are not art per se. If you're a movie director, you can storyboard your ideas easily, and even get some animation clips. If you're an artist with a distinct personal style, you're in a much better position too. And if you're a beginner who is just starting, you can focus on learning these skills instead of technical proficiency.