> We don’t think people should have to make the choice between a world of information at your fingertips and being present in the physical world around you.
What a weird mission statement.
Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#362I've long been a huge skeptic of the whole Metaverse project/undertaking, I think I've called it a smoking crater where ten billion dollars used to be. But this is really interesting: it sounds like the display works, and it sounds like the puck is workable, and it sounds like both can squeak above the line in terms of battery life. If those things are true I may turn out to have been completely wrong. I don't know t…
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#363I know it's a prototype, but yikes those are large and goofy looking. Reminds me of the old 80's NHS glasses in the UK (which you could get for free if you couldn't afford otherwise). Or for those of you old enough, Brains from the old Supermarionation versions of the Thunderbird show ( https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article8451975.ec... )
Yup. My first thought was that they look like "BCGs". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_glasses
Except 4x thicker
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "monitoring muscle contraction events only"? Not trying to argue with you, just understanding how the technology is being perceived. If I hold your fist/fingers and you try to make gestures, how do you expect the device to behave? I.e., if you think of a movement and signal that intention, but are not capable of carrying that through, because of someone else's hand, a mug, etc.
Interesting question! I would guess that electrical signals to contract muscles occur IFF the muscles exert some force, regardless of whether the muscles are actually able to overcome other forces and physically contract. So I would guess that it would work as if no one was holding my hand. I'm guessing this naive understanding is off the mark, from the phrasing of your question?
I was trying to figure if by "contraction events" you meant the actual motion or the signal to initiate that. Maybe it was the former, but it looks like you meant the latter. The wristband's EMG sensors can't detect the motion of the fingers themselves, of course, because it's on the wrist (and the signal passes through that before the relatively slow muscles have had time to act upon it).
There are videos of people able to control virtual hands even with partial or missing fingers, be that since birth or after some event, see e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woXmJMw2lTM&t=4717s
Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#365While still pretty clunky, I think I'd rather wear these for extended periods of time than Vision Pro glasses (100g vs 600g). This is the type of v1 minimalist design I was hoping Apple would go for. I assume Apple investigated this path but realized they would be cost prohibitive? (although when has that ever stopped Apple before?)
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#366One step closer to AI headbands from Ell Donsaii world
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#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is common with everything new tech. The first laptops, the first phones, the first iPhone, the first iPod and so on started out large.
The first iphones and ipods were stunning for their time; they changed the industry and people would wait for hours on end in line at stores. It seems like a reach to compare these glasses to that.
I'm not comparing actual devices. I'm comparing how large they were when they were first released. The original iPod and iPhones were bricks compared to what the latest/last versions and it didn't have a touch screen and cameras.
The point is, the size of new technology tend to shrink fast.
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#368I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…
It's far too late to be worrying about that, Meta has been hoovering up information about children for more than a decade now.
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
It still catches me off guard sometimes. Just a personal opinion, but it's a bit offputting because it's distracting to hear only one half of the conversation. My brain is dragged unwillingly into filling in the other half. Also we tend to talk kinda obnoxiously loud on the phone. But I guess that applies equally well to all public phone conversations.
why are you trying to listen in on other people's conversations? mind your business.
When someone is talking loudly right next to you, they are MAKING it my business.
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#370This is amazing technology, but I have a hard time trusting FB/Meta having this much additional information about my personal life.
why?