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Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by TillE »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #319
cududa wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If 36 hours (Ultra 2) isn't enough battery life, then you and your friends aren't the target audience for a smart watch with a display.

I guess we yearn for a world long past where there weren't so many daily charging cycles because things were just either plugged in or not.

Sure, but that's just the price you pay for having fancy portable gadgets. You want longer battery life, there are tradeoffs.

Personally, "it's finally a little thinner" is the thing that has me planning to buy an Apple Watch for the first time.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by lurking_swe »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #351

I can’t believe all the bellyaching about battery life here, blanket statements about how it’s “useless” because it doesn’t meet one’s personal preferences. Apple has sold more Watches than iPods. Remember iPods??!? The Watch is a huge hit and tons of people find daily charging to be a perfectly acceptable price of entry.

I agree with you. People will find something to complain about, but the sales speak for themselves.

There’s also the Ultra, which easily gets you 2-3 days of life.

Charging is so fast night, that it’s a non-issue. My watch gets fully charged while i eat lunch or dinner!

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by lolinder »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #92
Etheryte wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you have the reasoning backwards. Older people have considerably more purchasing power, after all they've had all their life to make money. There are many industries that do extremely well catering exactly to that fact.

You mean like Harley Davidson? Ya, they have more buying power, but they are choosey about what they buy and aren't so interested in new gadgets. Younger people have less buying power but they are full of wants. They also get more money and will buy more over time, whereas baby boomers are going to retire quickly and their buying will fall off.

You're still reasoning backwards. Apple produces new gadgets that appeal to young people, so they don't have as strong consumption from older people. That's a decision they made, but there's nothing baked into the laws of the universe that prevented them from designing around older consumers.

> They also get more money and will buy more over time, whereas baby boomers are going to retire quickly and their buying will fall off.

You're assuming this is a generational thing and not an age thing. If older people (and to be clear, I'm talking >40 vs <40) naturally gravitate away from smartphones for some more fundamental reason than generational differences, then that high-buying-power market will remain underserved even once today's young people age into that bracket.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by grogenaut »

_ph_ wrote: post #246

As I have big wrists and my eyes aren't getting better, I like a larger screen a lot. But for me, the most important update might be, that the screen now updates every second instead of every minute in the "inactive" mode. I do use the seconds display of any watch a lot when timing short things, especially when cooking. Whenever I want to watch the seconds, with my current watch I have to keep shaking my wrist to kee…

touch it with your nose to wake it

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by palijer »

18 hour battery life seems tiny compared to my 10 day battery life on my Garmin Venu 3.

Does Garmin just have better battery technology, or some patents that Apple can't use? Why such a large gap in comparable products?

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by jlmorton »

palijer wrote: post #365

18 hour battery life seems tiny compared to my 10 day battery life on my Garmin Venu 3. Does Garmin just have better battery technology, or some patents that Apple can't use? Why such a large gap in comparable products?

Because they're not even remotely comparable products

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by akerr »

grogenaut wrote: post #364
_ph_ wrote: post #246

As I have big wrists and my eyes aren't getting better, I like a larger screen a lot. But for me, the most important update might be, that the screen now updates every second instead of every minute in the "inactive" mode. I do use the seconds display of any watch a lot when timing short things, especially when cooking. Whenever I want to watch the seconds, with my current watch I have to keep shaking my wrist to kee…

touch it with your nose to wake it

Bud whad if you don’d have a nose?

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

jlmorton wrote: post #366
palijer wrote: post #365

18 hour battery life seems tiny compared to my 10 day battery life on my Garmin Venu 3. Does Garmin just have better battery technology, or some patents that Apple can't use? Why such a large gap in comparable products?

Because they're not even remotely comparable products

They seem like they’re directly the same category of product at a glance.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by lysozyme »

rtpg wrote: post #356
_ph_ wrote: post #246

As I have big wrists and my eyes aren't getting better, I like a larger screen a lot. But for me, the most important update might be, that the screen now updates every second instead of every minute in the "inactive" mode. I do use the seconds display of any watch a lot when timing short things, especially when cooking. Whenever I want to watch the seconds, with my current watch I have to keep shaking my wrist to kee…

I used to use smartwatch timers a lot. I bought a couple magnet timers to throw onto my fridge instead. Best $3 purchase I've ever made. Just smash the buttons, hit it, and go about your day.

Agreed, the UX of a magnet timer on the fridge beats using any kind of smart device for the task of setting kitchen timers. Most of them start a simple count up if not programmed for a specific duration, so you can watch the seconds.

Most magnet timers also remember the last duration, so if you use the same timer a lot for the same task (tea, for example), it’s literally a single button press. The same operation on any kind of smart device contains a staggering number of steps, each of which requires cognition and attention.

Magnet timers are also super cheap, so you can get another one if you have two favorite durations. A simple solution meets a simple problem

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by tomjen3 »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #125
hedgehog wrote: post #100

All that and no improvement to battery life. I've been wearing an Apple Watch for a few years, the data collection is good but the abysmal battery life and associated charge management is a real downer. I'm Apple ecosystem for almost everything but the battery and touch sensitivity issues are enough to get me to do the work to go to a different platform for health data.

I don't understand features like sleep apnea monitoring on a device with an "all-day, 18-hour battery life," unless they're expecting people to get one watch for the day and another one for the night.

They did apparently improve the charging speed. Still wish they made it the same size, but with better battery.
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