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Post by CJefferson »

e_i_pi_2 wrote: post #312
dotancohen wrote: post #309

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Diagnosis is currently extremely subjective. I believe that GP is suggesting that robotic diagnosis will be more objective and determinant. Ostensibly, because financial considerations will not be part of the input to the diagnosis routine. That said, financial considerations will probably still be a big part of the treatment routine.

I'd like to see it change the way dental insurance works, so that e.g. an AI diagnosis will legally be fully covered by the insurance, and anything that can't be verified through that would be considered an elective procedure. In the US dental insurance works basically opposite of health insurance - they only cover the basic checkups and you have to pay for any real medical needs. It's like if car insurance only cove…

You want to trust a ChatGPT system to decide if you should have dental surgery? What happens when you are in crippling pain but "computer says no"?

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Post by amelius »

isk517 wrote: post #343
amelius wrote: post #300

Let's first perfect robotic hair cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYKvjzWyYzA

Hair cut actually seems like it would be more complex than dental surgery. You only have about 32 teeth, they are large, and they shouldn't move around much. Compare that to 100,000 extremely thin strands of hair in varying length moving about all willy-nilly.

Did you see the video? The vacuum/suction method works pretty well here. Of course, trimming is a different story.

Re: Robot dentist performs first human procedure

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Post by isk517 »

amelius wrote: post #362
isk517 wrote: post #343

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Hair cut actually seems like it would be more complex than dental surgery. You only have about 32 teeth, they are large, and they shouldn't move around much. Compare that to 100,000 extremely thin strands of hair in varying length moving about all willy-nilly.

Did you see the video? The vacuum/suction method works pretty well here. Of course, trimming is a different story.

Yes, it is extremely impressive, especially considering it was made by one guying trying to come up with a hair cutting solution during the pandemic. Like you said in regards to trimming, more work would need to go into it to fully replace a hair stylist, and I was just pointing out that weirdly enough that might be more difficult than the dental surgery robot.

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Post by hattmall »

moffkalast wrote: post #324
hattmall wrote: post #262

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There's huge inertia to change in Dentistry, we know that drilling and filling is basically the worst way to fix teeth. It's firmly established that ART/HVGIC is a much simpler and superior method for 95% of issues. Could be nearly 100% with proper patient education. The ART proponents have been saying this for 30 years, but it's now too hard to deny the superiority. You don't hear Dentist advocating for it though, i…

So what you're saying is, the dental industry is ripe for disruption by someone who can set up a fancy office and hire a half competent nurse? Come on, YCombinator, do your thing.

Nope the regulation is too strict. You either must be a dentist or a hygienist to do any sort of dental work and there are strict limits on what a hygienist can do. To avoid regulation you must have an actual dentist doing everything. Now, the robot angle may open something up. There is already innovation in the manner you are thinking, but it's private equity basically buying the cheapest / worst dentist they can and scheduling them to do like 60 fillings a day in a different location each day of the week. Obviously the goal is extracting the most profit though. They will push all the most expensive procedures that non-dentist can do like periodontal debridement and measuring the gums etc.

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Post by rtkwe »

QuaternionsBhop wrote: post #219
rtkwe wrote: post #167

But will it carry on a conversation with me that consists entirely of open mouthed vowel sounds? I'm not sure speech recognition has gotten quite that far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7sWy4JQ18

Who will be making the open mouthed vowel sounds? You or the robot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qobhDJ_vEOc

Hopefully just me. I speak Dental Patient but I don't understand it.

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Post by tssge »

jeffbee wrote: post #340
tssge wrote: post #323

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I think you have misunderstood what dropshipping means. In dropshipping the business won't have any foreign made inventory and neither will they have any in their country. Instead they will hook you up with a Chinese outlet without telling you. The Chinese outlet will handle shipping, returns, etc with the dropshipping business just taking a cut for essentially spending money on Facebook Ads. This is the part where y…

> They don't have a local warehouse to return your item to if you're unsatisfied Yeah well that's their problem and not yours. That's the value they are providing! The person who sold you something can't disclaim responsibility for selling it to you, at least under American law.

What value? What kind of logistics value could they possible provide if they don't have logistics in the first place?

It of course is problem of the consumer, as consumer is the one returning the item and the one who ultimately has to deal with a Chinese company that may not even speak English, not to mention the time the package takes to get there for a refund.

While it's the seller's responsibility in theory, yes, they make it very clear that you'll be dealing with a Chinese seller in their terms. Yes, it is your job to read the terms before you buy, however if you do read them, why wouldn't you just go buy from AliExpress after that? Absolutely no extra value buying from the dropshipper once identified.

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Post by eru »

prmoustache wrote: post #291
eru wrote: post #279

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The billionaire I know even wipes his own butt. Shocking, I know.

He should wash it, not wipe it. That is what the bidet is for. Wiping is gross unless you have bare depilated butt crack

Well, I don't follow him into his bathroom. I mostly just know that he doesn't have his assistant do it.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

worstspotgain wrote: post #152
drewchew wrote: post #80

Will robot dentists facilitate the option to lay face down for procedures so that the debris and saliva falls out instead of needing the suction tool?

This, and the fact that a sterilized robot is way less likely to transmit airborne pathogens than a dentist and an assistant wearing a surgical mask at best. Maybe not v.1.0b4, but I'd sign up for v.1.2.

The technology exists to kill anything airborne immediately with UVC light, this will be deployed long before robot dentists.
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