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Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide

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If you have been firing a whole day, you definitely fell funny in the head. Ear protecting does not protect brain much. It protects hearing. Brain heals from very mild damage when there is time to rest, but when you shoot all day, day after day, the damage can accumulate. One already recognized problem area is the show wave getting between helmet and skull. It can amplify the impact. Nobody knows what the impact from…

People that hunt and shoot guns their whole lives do not commit suicide at high levels. This is what I am basing my statements on. Basically half the people I know in the US fall in to this category.

How often do you shoot your guns when you hunt?

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> diving deep underwater, which is also known to cause brain damage never heard about that. can you back this up with a source or explanation?

10.1096/fj.201701031R

That’s about apnea though. Don’t seals mostly do scuba diving? Or are they really holding their breath?

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> diving deep underwater, which is also known to cause brain damage never heard about that. can you back this up with a source or explanation?

10.1096/fj.201701031R

Im assuming you are referencing this paper [1], which is about competetive breath hold diving - diving to hundreds of feet on a single breath.

I've never heard of seals doing that kind of training.

[1] https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1096/fj.201...

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You state a lot of random things as a fact, while none of them are, not sure why the upvotes. Other react mostly to guns, but as a diver I can assure you that there is no automatic brain damage from 'diving deep underwater', whatever that layman term means. There are many folks in diving community with 10s of thousand of dives working cognitively as well as their peers. If you mean Nitrox for bigger depths, again tha…

i don't mean nitrox, and i agree that scuba diving doesn't cause brain damage at all (except, as you point out, in accidents) possibly people are upvoting because they know some facts you don't

But what diving except scuba is relevant when talking about seals? Are they doing apnea diving?

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Which raises the question of why they thought they'd approve this bill in committee? It's still very odd, weird, ungentlemanly and somewhat uncivilized.

To follow the analogy, the reason they did it is because the "DEI outrage machine" needs fuel, and this was the next low-hanging fruit. To the machine, women aren't as important as perpetuating itself, so hence we now are starting to get women drafted into traditionally (and oddly, actually gender appropriate) male-roles that are actually dangerous.

> now are starting to get women drafted

We haven't even drafted men in fifty years.

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Not sure why you are getting downvoted. I am aghast with the press-ganging going on in Ukraine. I think if Ukraine can’t motivate volunteers to fight then they must surrender. I get that we (the west) wouldn’t like that but they’re taking volunteers so anyone who wants to fight that war is free to do so. Too many people wanting other people to fight their wars for them. I don’t even like my country, the thought of be…

By this same logic, Russia should also surrender.

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> Much of what is categorized as post-traumatic stress disorder may actually be caused by repeated exposure to blasts. that is to say, it's actually shell shock? as in, actual physical shock from actual shells? george carlin would be so proud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc the article also mentions that they'd all trained extensively in diving deep underwater, which is also known to cause brain damage, b…

.50 cal sniper rifles and shoulder launched weapons like Carl Gustaf, the M72 LAW or the AT4 can. Firing a rifle may or may not cause shock waves that are strong enough. If you have been firing a whole day you definitely feel funny in the head.

> Carl Gustaf

The CG is LOUD. Wicked backblast on that, too.

Generally, you're limited to firing 6 rounds or less per day during training due to blast & shockwave effects. The guys we trained with didn't have that much ammo on hand, anyway, but interesting to know.

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> Much of what is categorized as post-traumatic stress disorder may actually be caused by repeated exposure to blasts. that is to say, it's actually shell shock? as in, actual physical shock from actual shells? george carlin would be so proud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc the article also mentions that they'd all trained extensively in diving deep underwater, which is also known to cause brain damage, b…

.50 cal sniper rifles and shoulder launched weapons like Carl Gustaf, the M72 LAW or the AT4 can. Firing a rifle may or may not cause shock waves that are strong enough. If you have been firing a whole day you definitely feel funny in the head.

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Re: Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide

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Prisoners is another population where we would find pervasive brain damage if we scanned them.[0] In time I believe we will find that a ton of destructive/aggressive behavior is due to physical issues in the brain.

[0] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00406-013-0403-6

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