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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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On a new device iCloud is not opt-out . Yesterday I installed a new iPad and had to go to iCloud settings and turn off syncing for some 30 services. Quite annoying.

I set up 3 new Mac laptops in the last month. All of them had an option to skip iCloud login during setup. Of course, you have to log in to iCloud to use the app store to get OS updates. Since I'm not an Apple user, I don't know if there are offline options available.

It is luckily possible to sign in for the App Store and OS updates without enabling things like backups or syncing.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Does anyone seriously use Microsoft OneDrive for backup? It's 300,000 file limit means pretty much no developer would risk it considering the thousands of files in a typical app. Believe me when OneDrive lost a heap of my files this year I was not impressed to learn of this serious limitation. To be fair GoogleDrive and DropBox also have similar limitations. Azure Storage on the other hand doesn't have the limitation…

Wait, so I can just run a little script that creates 400k useless files in the first directory it crawls, and then my data is safe from embezzlement?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #50

I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

What happens when your files are considered Bad and Microsoft removes them? When the OneDrive backend suffers bit rot or misconfiguration? What happens when your Microsoft account is compromised? When the photos of your kids in the bath are sent to the police? When you have a 10GB file that's frequently modified and the client then constantly scans it and uploads it? When your abusive partner, relation, co-worker or…

Any of this would be an implementation level fault, and Dropbox, iCloud, Google Photos and Meta's chat apps have had this solved for decades. I don't see why OneDrive couldn't.

If you hate the design, don't let your arguments rely on a bad implementation of what you hate. Make them work with a perfect one.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #24

I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

Windows is no longer an OS. It's a marketing platform with a "captive" audience.-

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

This is one of the reasons why some people do not want to create an online account in the first place.

I would recommend to only use Windows with a local account and without secure boot.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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> change the EULA Have you read the Windows privacy policy any time in the last decade? They don't need to change anything.

I can't tell you the last time I read a EULA. Probably back when software still came in a box and they put the EULA in said box, and I was stuck on the toilet without any other reading materials.

If you were already on the toilet with the EULA you had the opportunity to put it to better use than reading it.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Or if ordering a new PC you can get one with Windows 11 Pro for a few $$ more, choose the option to domain join (during initial setup) to create a local account, and create user accounts with no Microsoft account. Makes it easier to do minor little things like drive encryption as well.

There are a surprising number of laptops where getting Pro edition simply isn't an option. Lots of brands no longer offer detailed build-to-order customization and instead only sell online the same three or four configurations per mdel that retailers stock.

Can't you upgrade post install anymore?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #48

I recently reinstalled Windows Home. It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. I made a new account - installer @outlook.com with no@thankyou.com as the backup email (which you have to give). Microsoft didn't like that, so it made me go through 10 minutes of captchas (captcas in t…

> Then later I check my real name gmail account and there's a Microsoft email with a login code. I never gave MS this email address. What the hell?? I was with you until that part - everything else seemed plausible and likely true. This one is a lie, I don't know why you felt the need to include it.

I'm not lying - https://i.imgur.com/snOLtqJ.jpeg

No idea how they associated it - possibly taken from my chrome login on previous install and then tied it with some combination of licence key, hardware id and IP.

I certainly never gave it to MS nor did I request the reset, nor did I log in to gmail on the new install.

Sure it could be random but come on, this is the first time I got it and it was just after I installed W11.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Does anyone seriously use Microsoft OneDrive for backup? It's 300,000 file limit means pretty much no developer would risk it considering the thousands of files in a typical app. Believe me when OneDrive lost a heap of my files this year I was not impressed to learn of this serious limitation. To be fair GoogleDrive and DropBox also have similar limitations. Azure Storage on the other hand doesn't have the limitation…

i was unaware about the limitation. the experience sucks too much to put that limit to test as it is.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #87

At least a Mac alllows you to have a local account without iCloud. We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies due to the risk of client data leakage. It seems to me, unless the Microsoft cloud is 100% trusted you would not be able to use it at many places. (We do have centrally managed computers and accounts).

maybe for macs. in ios, however, icloud backup for EVERYTHING is enabled by default IIRC and you need to manually toggle everything off before you run out of the paltry 5 GB you get.

m$ finds a way to bring together the worst of everything together.

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