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The case involved an 11 yr old accused of 1st degree murder with a shotgun.
Yeah? My point stands. Also: Throw the owner of the gun in jail.
The owner was the one murdered, if I remember correctly.
The forgotten war on beepers
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What about shooting a kid for having a water gun? Edit: fuck me, I was half joking and thought I'd check anyway. What a shit show. Latest case was 5 days ago. https://www.google.com/search?q=American+police+shoot+kid+wi...
Look at the water gun in question though: https://abcnews.go.com/US/traumatizing-family-calls-justice-... Still sucks that the kid got shot for it, but I can see the confusion, compared to the usual colorful water guns.
This is America; Owning a real gun should not be an acceptable reason to be shot by the police. What the fuck is the point of all the aggressive defense around the second amendment if the second a cop sees a gun they are free to murder people?
Cops are not judge, jury, and executioners, and in fact have zero authority to hand down punishment. Being shot for holding a gun is absurd.
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The NUMBER 1 most annoying thing about not having a phone in the modern day is ticketing services / events. The second is Uber/Lyft/etc (though less of an issue in cities with public transit).
Can't you print the tickets? Even here in Denmark that's still an option.
I’ve been seeing more and more events that only have digital tickets. They say it almost like it’s a point of pride… all the paper they’re saving, or something.
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He did a pretty terrible job defending the hypothesis on Conversations with Tyler recently https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/jonathan-haidt-a...
FWIW, I thought he did pretty well and came away more convinced of his theses. For most of Tyler's alternative and let's say colorful explanations of the data, Haidt provided different sets of data and explanations that were more convincing. As a libertarian and techno optimist, Tyler seemed pretty biased, for example when he offered as an explanation for the plummeting mental health of teens at the exact time smartp…
> teens will just use AI to summarize social media to them and spend more time with friends
Yeah, this seems a bit off. People spend time with friends via social media. That's part tof the issue.
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#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
He did a pretty terrible job defending the hypothesis on Conversations with Tyler recently https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/jonathan-haidt-a...
FWIW, I thought he did pretty well and came away more convinced of his theses. For most of Tyler's alternative and let's say colorful explanations of the data, Haidt provided different sets of data and explanations that were more convincing. As a libertarian and techno optimist, Tyler seemed pretty biased, for example when he offered as an explanation for the plummeting mental health of teens at the exact time smartp…
For what it's worth, it doesn't seem like TikTok would be any less addictive if there was a way to summarize it.
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#366I dont own a phone, but to me a beeper is an okay compromise. During the quest to find one, I came across some really cool things. - Some beepers are made to only RX, not TX, as to not skew results of medical equipment - Basically 2 companies, operating with antequated websites (and prices) still provide service at the historic prices - Beepers are still sold today, new in box - Two-way pagers have been almost totall…
I’m curious about your desire to not own a phone. Have you written about the experience anywhere?
It's Ordnung.
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#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't argue with you. I'd just observe that you cut yourself off from a lot of modern conveniences. (I certainly grew up without cell phone until well into my adult life and largely without Internet as well.) You don't need electricity or indoor plumbing either--although those are arguably at a different level.
People cutting themselves off from modern convenience for moral reasons only gets interesting to me when it approaches Amish levels of commitment.
Not all Amish are the same. You're likely thinking of Swartzentruber Amish. It depends on your community, some have phones, some have a house with a shared phone. The Amish world at the moment is facing some of these changes, and some standards are evolving, but there will always be some separation with the English world until these modernities can be used in ways that don't erode community faith and relationships.
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#368> The Washington Post editorial board would call on schools to ban cellphones entirely - part of a new moral panic about kids and digital devices, many of whose parents were once prohibited from bringing pagers to school. I think we're too soon to know if this is a moral panic. It's a mental health worry for teenagers on TikTok etc. We don't know if it's justified or not.
Jonathan Haidt has a new book, The Anxious Generation, where he presents evidence that smartphones and social networking really do cause a decline in teenager mental health.
Haidt's claims are not supported by a preponderance scientific studies: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00902-2
> Two things need to be said after reading The Anxious Generation. First, this book is going to sell a lot of copies, because Jonathan Haidt is telling a scary story about children’s development that many parents are primed to believe. Second, the book’s repeated suggestion that digital technologies are rewiring our children’s brains and causing an epidemic of mental illness is not supported by science. Worse, the bold proposal that social media is to blame might distract us from effectively responding to the real causes of the current mental-health crisis in young people.
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> Hundreds of researchers, myself included, have searched for the kind of large effects suggested by Haidt. Our efforts have produced a mix of no, small and mixed associations. Most data are correlative. When associations over time are found, they suggest not that social-media use predicts or causes depression, but that young people who already have mental-health problems use such platforms more often or in different ways from their healthy peers.
Re: The forgotten war on beepers
#369I remember learning about these in elementary school. We were sitting in assembly in a room called "The Pod". Listening to rules and administrative things. On the list of banned items never to bring to school, along with drugs, guns, and knives, beepers were listed. I wasn't sure what they were, but from the context and too many cartoons, I assumed they were an explosive device that beeped a few times before blowing…
Kids aren't allowed to have beepers because that implies they have jobs.
When I was in high school back in the year 2000, I remember teachers getting pissy (rightfully) when someone's cell phone rang during class.
Personally, I was always thinking...you're in class. Who the hell is calling you and expecting you to answer?
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